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Full ss swap for 2 grand what should I do?

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Old 05-29-2012, 04:09 AM
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Full ss swap for 2 grand what should I do?

Ok so I've been waiting to put a blower on my 07 ls 5speed been researching for years getting ready to buy parts but now a 06 ss sc has come up for sale. It was hit in the rear quarter bad and totaled the front of the car 80% of the car looks brand new. Now I can get this car without the rims for two grand. Is it worth it to buy for parts? I've always wanted to do an f35 swap but now I've been leaning towards building the f23. Idk maybe someone knows about inspection laws how hard would it be to swap everything over maybe the vin plates and register it as a salvage? I can handle the swap I know it will take me and a few buddies a month at least I've done it before with 90s foxbodys. Idk if I should just buy the whole car and take what I want off it and junk the rest. Maybe someone on here would want the motor tranny ? Just liking for some input. Also I have a kn typhoon and a magna flow 2.5 cat back and ss front end. Please give your input I need help deciding what to do
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Sorry that was confusing it is hit in rear quarter totaled in the rear front if the car looks brand new
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Huh

It was hit in the rear quarter bad and totaled the front of the car
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It was hit in the rear but the front looks brand new?
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^^thats what I'm thinking

Depends on how much they want for the whole car. Could probably part out a decent amount on here
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I"m so confused. You want to buy the SS and register it? Or just use the engine, but then you're wondering if someone wants to buy the engine?

I'm not really sure what you want to do exactly. A 90s fox body this is not. You're going to need a lot of time and a LOT of work if you want to swap out the engine into a 2.2. You'll also need to spend more money on top of the $2000.
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it would be more time/money/effort than it's worth. don't buy it, you could piece together your build the way you want for about 2k
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Just buy the ZZP kit for your LS. Also upgrade that clutch , tranny and axles.
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just buy the FULL ZZP KIT. i did. cant wait to get it installed.
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Originally Posted by SuperchargedSS
Just buy the ZZP kit for your LS. Also upgrade that clutch , tranny and axles.
No need to do anything to the tranny or axles. There's a member that made a thread in this section showing his 2.2 with over 500whp and 500wtq with stock tranny and axles
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some of you guys are forgetting what the LSJ could offer the OP.

Items you could move into the LS:
LSJ Rods (Say hello to stronger rods)
LSJ Pistons (Say hello to stronger pistons and to a better compression ratio for FI)
LSJ Tranny (Say hello to a better gear setup for FI)

And besides that, he could do a full interior swap.
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Originally Posted by warrenb213
some of you guys are forgetting what the LSJ could offer the OP.

Items you could move into the LS:
LSJ Rods (Say hello to stronger rods)
LSJ Pistons (Say hello to stronger pistons and to a better compression ratio for FI)
LSJ Tranny (Say hello to a better gear setup for FI)And besides that, he could do a full interior swap.
base model tranny is stronger than the lsj

f23>f35
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Ok sorry I was beat last night. The car was hit in the rear upper quarter it's totaled. The owner wants two grand with no tires and wheels it's an 06 with 79k on it . The only damage is in the trunk lid/ rear quarter. The back bumper is twisted a little but both of the side skirts are fine. The entire front end of the car is perfect looks brand new so For exterior I would get the front lip and the side skirts. Maybe the painted mirror covers . I want the interior but it's black and yellow and my car is laser blue I'm not sure how it would look. I want to swap the gauge cluster too. So now for the engine Ill be stripping he motor down of all accessories I need to supercharge it. Make sure I do it myself so I know I have everything I need. Now that's all I need really I have ss sc fe5 LCAs already so maybe I'll take the suspension. It's been contemplated but over decided against doing a tranny swap to the f35 or even a motor swap. I don't even think a 5 lug with ss brake kit swap is worth I I can spend the money on my brakes already and nicer lightweight wheels which in a 4x100 pattern are a dime a dozen. And as for the tranny im thinking new mounts stage 2 zzp axles zzp clutch maybe a obx diff. But now that this whole car could be bought so cheap I'm rethinking my plans should I just buy it and start to swap as much as I can over. Maybe I could build a lsj l61 hybrid ???. Lsj block l61 head. f35 tranny with the lsj block will go right in no need to worry about custom flywheel clutch obv I would need to change my clutch setup to the ss master cylinder and all.
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Originally Posted by alleycat58
I"m so confused. You want to buy the SS and register it? Or just use the engine, but then you're wondering if someone wants to buy the engine?

I'm not really sure what you want to do exactly. A 90s fox body this is not. You're going to need a lot of time and a LOT of work if you want to swap out the engine into a 2.2. You'll also need to spend more money on top of the $2000.

Have u ever worked on a 90s mustang they are wiring nightmares when you swap them u have to strip everything every single wire on that car is different from tail light harness to changing over the fascia behind the hood so u can use wipers from a gt not saying the cobalt is going to be easy at all on a full swap I know I would need at least two months of part time work on it I'm a busy guy. But if a swap from a 88 gt coupe to a 93 base mustang convertible can be done by us in a week I'm sure I could do it full time working in two.
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Couldn't he just swap the sc from the lsj into his 2.2, rather than rewiring the whole engine?
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what color is the SS/SC?
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Originally Posted by bluebalt07
No need to do anything to the tranny or axles. There's a member that made a thread in this section showing his 2.2 with over 500whp and 500wtq with stock tranny and axles
So 'one' person here does it and its all good....
Im sure the OEM LS tranny is rated for it too.

I can have 800whp and if I don't go wot I could run stock everything too. Doesn't mean its rated for it.

If you are going to be launching that from a sticky drag box and getting into it hard on the street. Beef it up. Or dont... I dont give a ****... its your towing bill ... lol
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Buying the car for 2 g's isn't bad, figure you could probably just do a the sc swap right with the lsj compressor and alternator, and sell every thing you don't use then just junk the car and at least break even.

Hell I might even buy the front hubs from you...
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Originally Posted by SuperchargedSS
So 'one' person here does it and its all good....
Im sure the OEM LS tranny is rated for it too.

I can have 800whp and if I don't go wot I could run stock everything too. Doesn't mean its rated for it.

If you are going to be launching that from a sticky drag box and getting into it hard on the street. Beef it up. Or dont... I dont give a ****... its your towing bill ... lol
actually there are about 15-20 cavalier guys doing 10's and under on the stock f23 trans, nextttt
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buy it, use it to sc your car and use what you want in general and part out the rest. yoy're buying a whole car for essentialy the price of a zzp kit, getting other parts you can use and selling some to recoupe cost and maybe upgrade some parts as you see fit
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Originally Posted by SuperchargedSS
So 'one' person here does it and its all good....
Im sure the OEM LS tranny is rated for it too.

I can have 800whp and if I don't go wot I could run stock everything too. Doesn't mean its rated for it.

If you are going to be launching that from a sticky drag box and getting into it hard on the street. Beef it up. Or dont... I dont give a ****... its your towing bill ... lol
He does launch it from a drag box frequently, runs 12 flat at Bandimere Speedway (altitude is about 5800ft above sea level, and the air density is usually around 7-8000)

He's not that only one thats ran a stock (f23) transmission that hard
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I'm liking the feed back on the f23 I thought it was junk till I began doing some research. Does anyone have any input on using the lsj block with the l61 heads? I doubt it has been done yet I'm thinking I might have to use lsj valves for the shorter Clearence with the piston. I don't see too many resonance why it wouldn't work I can understand why the lsj head wouldn't work on the l61 block the CPS on the exhaust cam I belive. Among other reasons but if all our blocks are essentially the same and the bore is exactly the same so with some clever timing and a nice dyno tune I bet the lsj block will work. I know it's giving up valuable displacement but it's worth it to run that lower compression without a 400 set of pistons. Asides from that do you guys think it would be easy to move the rest of the car? I would probably only be able to store it for a month or so. If anyone is interested in parts let me know? if I can find a buyer for the engine/tranny then I'll grab it right away
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Kinda pointless to run the L61 head on the LSJ block as it doesn't flow as well. Besides if you are wanting to do an LSJ swap, might as well do it all
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