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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 05:14 AM
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Arrow HP Tuners for 07's LS/LT models....

I posted up a question on the HPTUNERS forum and got a reply, basically I asked said I had an 08 Chevy Equinox and my wife(well.......me) had a cobalt, and I had bout 4 credits for the chevy equinox, since they have the same pcm, could I transfer the other 2 to the cobalt with the e37 pcm since its the same pcm?

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"We don't yet support the E37."

so I'm guessing the 07 PCM's with the e37 are going to be cracked by hptuners, then we'll have the same abilities as the ss/sc
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 05:33 AM
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by avenger09123
I posted up a question on the HPTUNERS forum and got a reply, basically I asked said I had an 08 Chevy Equinox and my wife(well.......me) had a cobalt, and I had bout 4 credits for the chevy equinox, since they have the same pcm, could I transfer the other 2 to the cobalt with the e37 pcm since its the same pcm?

this is his reply in the forums


"We don't yet support the E37."

so I'm guessing the 07 PCM's with the e37 are going to be cracked by hptuners, then we'll have the same abilities as the ss/sc
um no... the 2.4 has VVT... and the 2.2 has no way of putting a tune on. or messing with the stock tune. sorry. it took them along time to crack the LNF PCM.. and that was cause of demand( a high one).. i honestly doubt there's demand for the cracking of the 2.2 PCM... isnt there another form of PCM managment? like an AEM controller or somthing???
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 05:48 AM
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HPT has been "yet" to support the '07 2.2 ECM since it came out, this was supposed to be "the one", but here we are, still waiting. Currently AEM is the only Fuel/Ignition controller available
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 11:15 AM
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The "yet" just means they dont have it... doesnt say they are working on it or if it will be soon
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 11:22 AM
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From what I understand they already have the E37 cracked, just not for the cobalt application. I believe they use this pcm on other models also???
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 11:45 AM
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From what I understand they already have the E37 cracked, just not for the cobalt application. I believe they use this pcm on other models also???
Yep, they cracked the e37 for the 08 Chevy Equinox....I am talking to the HPTuners guy on the email....he said it may work or it may not, he doesn't know, but he says if they've already cracked the pcm, they would consider supporting the car too then. He just wants me to send him the file or log it pulls off for him to take a look. I'm at work right now so I can't do it but I'll try to get something done this weekend for you guys....

um no... the 2.4 has VVT... and the 2.2 has no way of putting a tune on. or messing with the stock tune. sorry. it took them along time to crack the LNF PCM.. and that was cause of demand( a high one).. i honestly doubt there's demand for the cracking of the 2.2 PCM... isnt there another form of PCM managment? like an AEM controller or somthing???
No way? dood, this is the age of computers, there is never NO WAY to do something.....and besides I could go to china town and get a Tech II TUNE done for $150

If they've already cracked the PCM, it wouldn't be a big deal to change the parameters of the program to the cobalt. If you think about it in a logical sense.....they would just have to upload the new limitations from the pcm and wam-bam....new tuning material right there.
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 03:02 PM
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is it just me or am i the only one who wondering why the hell they would tune a Equinox and not a cobalt. im not tryin to talk **** on anyone owning a suv or anything but WTF!!!!!
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 409Cobalt07
is it just me or am i the only one who wondering why the hell they would tune a Equinox and not a cobalt. im not tryin to talk **** on anyone owning a suv or anything but WTF!!!!!
I'm with you on that.
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 03:14 PM
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I'm with you on that.
thanks. as long as im not the only one haha
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 03:55 PM
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more than likely, there is another car with the same ECM and OS...
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 11:08 PM
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Why the **** would they crack it for the Equinox before the cobalt? Is there a bigger following behind it? I really don't think so!
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 11:55 PM
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Chevy Equinox Sport

not the base model, base equinox has no support either

whenever they make different pcm's for different classes of one model of car, usually the 'base' platform gets stiffed
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Old Jan 26, 2008 | 02:40 AM
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this is bush. crack the pcm but too lazy to tweak it for cobalts?
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 09:26 AM
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Why the **** would they crack it for the Equinox before the cobalt? Is there a bigger following behind it? I really don't think so!
if there is then i refuse to do any more mods to my balt! ill just save my money and get a new equinox hahahaha j/k
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 09:35 AM
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the 2005-2006 2.2l cobalt is also not "yet" to be supported after 4 years, and were flat out told that it may never happen.
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by D4u2s0t
the 2005-2006 2.2l cobalt is also not "yet" to be supported after 4 years, and were flat out told that it may never happen.

How realistic do you think it would be to swap a 2.4 auto ecm/wiring harness out to a 2.2 auto. Granted you'd have to return the ecm to work right on a 2.2 (no VVT etc), you think it could work?
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by tonio5555
How realistic do you think it would be to swap a 2.4 auto ecm/wiring harness out to a 2.2 auto. Granted you'd have to return the ecm to work right on a 2.2 (no VVT etc), you think it could work?
no idea, i'm not the person to ask about that i don't really know anything about tuning at all, i just bought a book that explains everything and right now it's still like reading chinese to me
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 10:17 PM
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im pretty sure u its not a direct swap, and even with changes it still wont work. not 100% but im pretty sure i read that somewhere on here
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BigTizzle903
im pretty sure u its not a direct swap, and even with changes it still wont work. not 100% but im pretty sure i read that somewhere on here
He's right, unfortunately, its a close match, but the differences are too big to be overcome - at least at this moment...as for now, the 2.4L has the e67 pcm, which I will look at the pin diagrams tonight and see if it is exactly the same, if its not i'll post the wire scheme thats different
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by avenger09123
He's right, unfortunately, its a close match, but the differences are too big to be overcome - at least at this moment...as for now, the 2.4L has the e67 pcm, which I will look at the pin diagrams tonight and see if it is exactly the same, if its not i'll post the wire scheme thats different

I realize that this is by no means a direct swap, but I am thinking of making this into a summer project for myself. See the thread I posted in tuning https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/tuning-131/2-4-ecm-swap-93890/

Are the connectors for the E37, E67, and E16a physically the same? I'm not asking if it'll work out of the box but will the 3 ecm's physically interchange with one another?
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 03:38 PM
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HAHAHA FINALLY i went to the local performance shop and Cam works with HPtuners and he got in and he is tuning in on friday!!!!
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 03:50 PM
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HAHAHA FINALLY i went to the local performance shop and Cam works with HPtuners and he got in and he is tuning in on friday!!!!
SWEETNESS, does this mean I don't have to waste 2 credits to maybe tune my cobalt2.2??????????? Ask him how he did it, did he use the Equinox Sport and just tweaked the values or what?????????????????
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 06:00 PM
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ill ask him hows he doing it on friday cuz he already adjusted my speed governor so hes for sure in this is awesome !!!!!
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Downy_7
ill ask him hows he doing it on friday cuz he already adjusted my speed governor so hes for sure in this is awesome !!!!!
governor has been able to been adjusted for a long time. you were always able to do that, as well as i believe tune the tranny.
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