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Old May 26, 2009 | 10:36 PM
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Hydrolocked?.. Or something..

Okay so tonight I had an experience that made me nearly **** myself..

It has been raining here for about 5 hours, all of which, my Cobalt sat in the driveway for. It did downpour a little, but nothing outside the usual for a late Spring, early Summer rainstorm. I go to drive my girlfriend home, we get in the car, pull out of my driveway just like usual. I get about 30 feet down my street, 1st gear, pedal 1/4 way down; all of the sudden it starts bogging like crazy. I'm like - What the hell, so I push the clutch in, put it in neutral, and it starts idle surging like crazy and dies out. At this point I'm ******* shitting bricks because I'm pretty sure water was being sucked into my CAI, but here's the problem..

I, like most Cobalt owners on here, have a small gap between my headlight and my front fascia, where the filter for the CAI resides; however, how the hell could water have built on the filter to the point where it would bog, if it just sat in rain for the past 5 hours.

It doesn't make any sense; has this ever happened to anyone else?

I'm tweaking.
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Old May 26, 2009 | 10:42 PM
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My buddy alex has had 3 new engines in his eclipse, one time it had just started drizzling(less than 10 min) and he hydrolocked...
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Old May 26, 2009 | 10:45 PM
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Oh christ..

If the car still runs, could there be any possible internal damage?
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Old May 26, 2009 | 10:52 PM
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Immediately change the oil(or check it for milkiness) I would change it reguardless
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Old May 26, 2009 | 10:53 PM
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Son of a bitch, I'll go check it right now.

What's with all these people on here saying - "Oh you need to drive through a lake to hydrolock..", my ass.
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Old May 26, 2009 | 10:55 PM
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Old May 26, 2009 | 10:57 PM
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if you're lucky you might have just got water on the maf.

also pull the spark plugs and let it sit overnight to let any water in the combustion chamber evaporate.

(you could also disable fuel, pull the plugs, and crank it over and see if any water splashes out)

see how it runs in the morning.
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Old May 26, 2009 | 10:59 PM
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I kinda wish I had a spark plug socket right about now..
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Old May 26, 2009 | 11:24 PM
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i was also under the impression that rain would not cause it to hydrolock, although i never really stomp on it when its wet out for that reason.
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Old May 26, 2009 | 11:26 PM
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i was also under the impression that rain would not cause it to hydrolock, although i never really stomp on it when its wet out for that reason.
It will, half of the modded cars in my town have had issues.
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Old May 26, 2009 | 11:41 PM
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i drove bumperless while it was kinda raining no problem.
your MAF probably just got wet

you need to suck up water to hyhdro it
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Old May 27, 2009 | 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Preston
i drove bumperless while it was kinda raining no problem.
your MAF probably just got wet

you need to suck up water to hyhdro it
Yeah, I definitely saw water spots on my MAF when I took all my CAI piping off. I also still had water on my throttle plate.

The oil is completely normal in color.

..I'm WAGing my tail off (Wild Ass Guessing), and saying I got extremely lucky.
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Old May 27, 2009 | 12:25 AM
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If your oil seems normal I would check in in about 10 miles or so just to make sure, you wouldnt have any water in there if your oil is good.
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Old May 27, 2009 | 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by tru2nrtt777
If your oil seems normal I would check in in about 10 miles or so just to make sure, you wouldnt have any water in there if your oil is good.
Thing is, I drove my girlfriend home and then drove back to my house, and that is over 10 miles.

I'm guessing just enough got down the TB, and on the MAF, to upset the engine and causing it to bog, but I'd guess most of it burned up in the combustion stroke. It couldn't have been much water anyway, like I said, the car was only sitting in an average rainfall.

Got lucky. Heh.
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Old May 27, 2009 | 01:11 AM
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i drove my explorer through a huge puddle one time and my intake sucked up so much water my air filter was literally dripping wet. it bogged down then died then i started it up and it was idling rough then i revved it a bit more then it eventually came back to normal but i never had any severe problems. it was a bit scary.
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Old May 27, 2009 | 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Cobalt629
i drove my explorer through a huge puddle one time and my intake sucked up so much water my air filter was literally dripping wet. it bogged down then died then i started it up and it was idling rough then i revved it a bit more then it eventually came back to normal but i never had any severe problems. it was a bit scary.
Yeah, that's basically what happened. I got in the car after it had been sitting in rain for a few hours, went to accelerate, it bogged, died, I started it back up, revved it, and I was pretty much on my way after that.

I was seriously shitting.

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Old May 27, 2009 | 02:35 AM
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invest in a hydro shield
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Old May 27, 2009 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Cobalt629
i drove my explorer through a huge puddle one time and my intake sucked up so much water my air filter was literally dripping wet. it bogged down then died then i started it up and it was idling rough then i revved it a bit more then it eventually came back to normal but i never had any severe problems. it was a bit scary.
thats why i used to just book through the puddles in my exploder.

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Old May 27, 2009 | 11:05 AM
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This is why we all say you have to submerge your intake to hydrolock:
HydroLock Wiki

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Hydrolock (short for either hydraulic lock or hydrostatic lock) is a condition of an internal combustion engine in which an incompressible liquid has been introduced into its cylinder(s), resulting in the immobilization of the engine's pistons. The liquid causing this malfunction is often water, hence the prefix "hydro-". Hydrolock occurs in a 4-stroke engine when liquid is sucked into the engine's cylinder(s) during the intake stroke and, due to the incompressibility of the liquid, makes the compression stroke impossible. This, in turn, prevents the entire engine from turning, and can cause significant engine damage if one attempts to forcibly turn over or start the engine. Typically, connecting rods will be bent, making the engine uneconomical to repair. Confer flooded engine and vapor lock, two unrelated conditions which could easily be confused with hydrolock.
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Causes
Hydro lock is relatively common when driving through floods, either where the water is above the level of the air intake or the vehicle's speed is excessive, creating a tall bow wave.

Another reason for it to occur is in the event of the head gasket cracking or "blowing," which causes the radiator coolant to mix inside the combustion chamber.

Fuel entering one or more cylinders due to carb flooding or other causes can make an engine hydrolock also. If this is the case, remember to disable any ignition sources before attempting to clear the motor by removing the plugs and turning it with the starter.
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Old May 27, 2009 | 08:39 PM
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If you have a CAI you should always invest in a water check valve. I had a front mount CAI on my accord and drove through hellacious rains and never once had a bog thanks to the check valve.
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Old May 27, 2009 | 08:53 PM
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You can still experience hydrolock without submerging, take a bottle of water and pour it down your intake with it running and see how the engine likes it... Hell take a spray bottle and it will still struggle and sputter.
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Old May 27, 2009 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by tru2nrtt777
You can still experience hydrolock without submerging, take a bottle of water and pour it down your intake with it running and see how the engine likes it... Hell take a spray bottle and it will still struggle and sputter.
It doesn't like it, but it doesn't lock it. Hence Hydro-Lock.
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Old May 27, 2009 | 11:26 PM
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If it's locked it won't crank. I believe what I experienced was just a bit of bogging and sputtering, and it died twice, but it didn't "lock".

I'm sure all of the water evaporated during the power stroke anyway.

My oil isn't milky, there are no knocks or anything, I dried my entire intake system, mainly, the filter. The car rips just a hard as usual.

Lucky FTW.
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Old May 27, 2009 | 11:37 PM
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there should no way in hell you would hydrolock from a little "rain"...you would have to go splashing through some thick water to even think about it locking....

ive heard of guys shooting little streams of water in the intake to "steam clean" the valve train and pistons...granted this was on a 3800 (V6) so it might be able to handle differently...i would never do this BTW

invest in hydro shield
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 11:33 AM
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its happened to me after the car wash. yes i pooped a little too hydroshield ftw
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