2.2L L61 Performance Tech 16 valve 145 hp EcoTec with 155 lb-ft of torque

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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 11:11 AM
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Instead of F/I

I was thinking of full 2.5" borla exhaust with headers, a larger throttle body, larger intake manifold, possibly a jet module (or another ecu mod), CAI intake and a 75 wet shot. do you think the 2.2 could dip into the 14's with this?
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 03:00 PM
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HEADER without the s

yes I think you should be in the 14's with those mods...thats my planned route as well. Although I don't know if I'll be getting an intake manifold. Also I don't believe there are any ECU mods out there, ****** GM.

there is a guy with a 2.2L Ion that has intake, exhaust, some headwork, and a 50 shot and he is slightly faster than stock SS/SC's & RL's.
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 03:02 PM
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yea i know i accidently stuck the s on there o well lol

great, thanks for the info.
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 03:06 PM
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Throw in some cams too, I think you'll easily see 14's.
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 03:10 PM
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I wouldn't worry about cams, for that much you could do a 250HP turbo setup..... But also look into dropping some weight, spare tire, extra seats, etc before you run. I think you could be pusing close to 230HP with that setup which should put you in the mid 14's.
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 04:45 PM
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I wouldn't worry about cams, for that much you could do a 250HP turbo setup..... But also look into dropping some weight, spare tire, extra seats, etc before you run. I think you could be pusing close to 230HP with that setup which should put you in the mid 14's.
You will not get 230hp NA. Maybe if you spend 10G's and run alky. NA is harder than you may think, To get to ~180WHP you would need cams, header back exhaust, and some sort of FMU, stand alone would help, some headwork, TB, 10.5:1 pistons.

14's are possible, get some good tires and the lightest rims you can find, then work from there. Keep adding bolt-ons until you get there.
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 04:51 PM
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You will not get 230hp NA. Maybe if you spend 10G's and run alky. NA is harder than you may think, To get to ~180WHP you would need cams, header back exhaust, and some sort of FMU, stand alone would help, some headwork, TB, 10.5:1 pistons.

14's are possible, get some good tires and the lightest rims you can find, then work from there. Keep adding bolt-ons until you get there.

Yea, that's true. this one guy I knew put every bolt-on imaginable on his SVT Focus (170hp stock), and after all that, he only ran high 14's. And the car has 10.2:1 compression and VVT stock. Also has a long tube, 4-2-1 race header stock as well.
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 04:55 PM
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230 hp includes the 75 hp shot of nitrous
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 05:54 PM
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75hp with no other mods should get you into the 14's
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 05:57 PM
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thats my plans too.... to bad thay dont make a Borla cat-back, throttle body, header or jet module yet


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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 07:43 PM
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Yea, that's true. this one guy I knew put every bolt-on imaginable on his SVT Focus (170hp stock), and after all that, he only ran high 14's. And the car has 10.2:1 compression and VVT stock. Also has a long tube, 4-2-1 race header stock as well.
thats because NA zetec buildups are garbage In the end you will have a non streetable, high 14 1/4 mile money pit because the zetec and NA just don't get along.

True osmose, you may need a ton of things to have a strong NA buildup but throw in the 75 shot and you can leave some of those mods out.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 08:35 AM
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i would save myself a headache and alot of money and just get a turbo kit and be done with it, na will never be faster than forced induction when talking 4 cyl engines
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 09:15 AM
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lol turbo is just less reliable.....
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by CobaltBurst
lol turbo is just less reliable.....
No. a common misconception.
A highly modified (high output) NA engine will be more prone to breaking than properly tuned FI engine given the same power output (and even if you're pushing slightly more power FI over NA).
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 10:07 AM
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14's are definitely obtainable with that setup. Super/turbo charging is in a seperate category, if the time is taken to set them up right, they can be easily as reliable as any NA setup. In fact, running the nitrous is harder on the engine than charging is in the long run.
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