The Aem Piggyback Ecm... Where Can I Find That... And Is It Pricey?

 

im thinking of using that same s/c kit for my balt...its the supercharger kit for the 2.2 eco cavalier, but same motor and everything(except ECU) so my friend at the dealer is hookin it up or 1500 including the install and the tune, only thing is i told him i dont need the tune, im not dumb, i know t wont work, so ima go out and buy the AEM piggyback, and tune that...only with that will you be able to s/c ur car...the kit come w/everything u need, the s/c, pulley, belt, injectors, all u need is the AEM fci and a tune for it and ur set, in total you'll spend 3500+..the cheapest i've seent he AEM fci was 400 at cobaltperformanceparts.com..AEM sells it for like 500+

 

big tizzle i pmed you about it giving you the details

for the record its not only the tune thats the problem..its becuase we use a drive by wire throttle in the cobalt, so you need to borrow alot of lsj parts to do it...so in the end..why not just buy used lsj parts for the whole thing?

 

It has been cracked by livewire...just not released to the public. Stop giving false info!!!!!

 

I've already spoken to several gm parts guys and techs. The kit he's talking about is for the cavi's not the cobalt. The kit will fit your car but you will:

1)have to make a plate to mount your stock tb to the supercharger

2)buy a piggyback to tune(aem fi/c is the best right now)

That's it. It's not that big of a deal but considering the price of the "kit" and the fact that you still have to do some fabrication it would be cheaper and wiser to just go for lsj parts and put it togeather yourself. It's up to you though.

have you got your turbo kit yet?

 

Last I checked someone had cracked our ECU.....not sure what company, but they were working with Garrett Turbos....and i remember seeing this because Garrett has a full turbo kit for the 05-06 2.2 cobalts....at least thats what i read about 3-4 weeks ago...actually....the kit came with a tuned/tunable ECU....so that might be the difference.....anyone know?

 

Its for the Cavi and Sunflower ONLY!

 

^^thank you JACK!!!! WE arent Tunable....!!!

 

ok guys....for some reason you guys apparently missed this one.....go Here and take a read......dont knock it till you read thru and get down to the Alpha kit which is only for the 2005-2006 Chevy COBALT Manual Transmission ONLY <--quote from page....garrett makes a kit for us....and its $4000.....

 

I thought this thread was about a GM kit for the 2.2 not just a Garret kit. I think its cool you have one but its NOT what the original poster was stating.

 

got off topic....sorry....and i dont have the kit due to lack of extra money to dump.....unfortunately

 

The parts will install quite nicely, but they tuning will be a nightmare for you since there is no stand alone, and piggybacking is still only being explored.

 

yellowshowbalt did it and he didnt blow up the engine, everything else died out on him... but for over a year the car handled the SC

correct

we can piggy back tune! that has already been done and thats how they are tuning the turbos right now

the AEM kit works and is being used.... there are also other piggybacks that are coming with the turbo kits.



The basic answer is yes it can be done but it is a bitch. If you wanna do it, get the parts from an LSJ and go that route. we have a different throttle body (electronic compared to cable) and that system is designed for cobalts. put it together, get yourself a piggyback, talk to someone who knows what they are talking about with tuning (**cough cough** Sw4y **cough cough**) and go for it.

 

Orange... my point is without piggyback there is no tuning... with a piggy back you cant get as detailed as you can with hpt or anyother tuning software. Hence why running this system is very dangerous. the chances that someone knows what they are doing with a piggyback is very scarce... i dont see how many people can understand how to mess with it.

Now i wasnt arguing wheather or not this system would fit or work. my point is that try running it with no tuning, thank you and good night;.

 

A L61 is a L61

The parts will fit properly.

The reflash on the other hand won't.

Not getting on you or anything but

I see a lot of people putting down piggyback systems like they aren't accurate or something.

Piggyback units work and have worked for all kind of vehicles for years on end. If they weren't reliable, people wouldn't use them.

When most of the people understand how they work, what exactly they do, what they CAN do and how important the software side plays into it, then they'll understand they are just as reliable, if not more reliable. Last note is that you can't go wrong with them especially on a OBDII computer because you still retain the stock counter-measures, which on OBDII computers, you have a lot of.

 

the throttle body wont fit, due to drive by wire versus electronic control

this is very true. i would still prefer HPT support so i can change things like my speed governor, thermostat, and more of the like, but piggybacks like the FIC can properly tune our cars up to 27PSI and do so safely

 

i'd much prefer havin hpt. they need to make something for the 2.2 asap

 

Thank you adam. Its nice to have someone else on here that understands them. So annoying when people complain about no tuning when its right there and is just as good if you know how to use it.

Oh... We DID find a way to adjust the governor. It will be done this coming week on my car to prove it. The problem is, on the SMT-6 it uses the Crank Position 1 INPUT and OUTPUT to do it. And since the Crank Position 1 and 2 in/outputs are already being used to retard my timing, it will require either a 2nd SMT or this inverter that i already have attached to my smt. The motor is being put in this week and i will be doing all these tests on it. Unfortunately it wont be forged for another couple weeks until some cash comes in from my roommate. So at first ill be running the our NEW tuning(intake mani with 4 secondary injectors) at 8psi still on my current turbo setup. I will then pull the head and swap in the new rods/pistons/headgasket/headstuds and run 18psi on the turbo. Then comes the procharger(gasp) lol.

 

can the smt-6 do anything with our trannys for the auto guys? I dont know much (anything) about smt 6

 

No it cannot. Its built purely for engines. For the auto guys, i would say look into the Shift Plus. I know it doesnt adjust anything but line pressure, but i guess its better then nothing right? Ask Celicacobalt how his tranny is holding up. If you dont beat on it, i dont see why it wouldnt hold up with a tranny cooler.

 

if any one has questions about sc the 2.2 you should ask me becouse ive done this and its still running strong.

 

Did you ever figure out how to tune yet?

 

yea i hooked the smt-7 up wrong and was causing the car to panic and shut down. the car runs great but it wont go any where becouse i still havent had the time to get a new trans

 

piggybacks do work, like adam said, i don't exactly know why everyones like OH EM GEE A F-ING PIGGYBACK? WTF?! they do work..my brother has driven his car for 3 years on a piggyback, it was supercharged on nos and did fine, daily driver plus it ran mid 13's, now he has a turbo/nos/spraybar/meth injection and it's running on a piggyback, it runs high 12's with a shot and it's a daily driver, it was tuned by dynolabs though when it was supercharged

 

wait...celicacobalts is running an auto turbo right now? on a 2.2l?