2.2L L61 Performance Tech 16 valve 145 hp EcoTec with 155 lb-ft of torque

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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 08:33 AM
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lsj/lnf internals

has anyone ever put the lsj or lnf pistons and rods in the 2.2? i know it would destroke it, but wouldnt that lead to safe higher revs? also, stock upgrade is less expensive than aftermarket. i plan on doing a mild turbo build on my 2.2 (because it has almost 120k miles on it) and im on a very strict budget. but basically, i could get around 350 whp with the factory internals setup, right?
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 09:20 AM
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lnf internals, no. Atleast not the pistons. DI engine.....
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 09:24 AM
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The stock bottom end is good for 250HP i believe.

So you will need upgraded rods and pistons at a minimum. No the LNF parts won't work.
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 09:46 AM
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05g5, saw that thread.
The L61 is rated for 250hp I believe. Unless the lsj is the same. I'd think the lsj could take more having thicker rods and taller pistons. Am I wrong?
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 10:17 AM
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the lsj is boosted + forged internals. it will handle more.

any parts YOU are looking are gunna need to come off a LSJ
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 10:19 AM
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Like everyone else said, use LSJ internals. If you are on facebook the cobalt ss gang someone has the pistons and rods forsale.
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 10:58 AM
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I sent a request to join the group. Lsj rods and pistons are capable of 450ish hp, right?
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 11:06 AM
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Technically the lnf stuff fits too, and the DI pistons dont affect much for non DI. Somebody even ran flat top pistons for a DI build and they said nothing really changed.

Zzp sells brand new ldk pistons/rods/rings for 250$. Go for those.
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Slowbalt2000
Technically the lnf stuff fits too, and the DI pistons dont affect much for non DI. Somebody even ran flat top pistons for a DI build and they said nothing really changed.

Zzp sells brand new ldk pistons/rods/rings for 250$. Go for those.
That sounds tempting, but I'm going for price efficient and around 350whp, call said and done. So if there's not much of a difference in price, I'll go with ldk stuff to be safe.
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 11:25 AM
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That sounds tempting, but I'm going for price efficient and around 350whp, call said and done. So if there's not much of a difference in price, I'll go with ldk stuff to be safe.
LDK is direct injection I believe. Pistons won't work. They are dished for DI
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 11:40 AM
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Wouldn't dished in a non di car just lower the compression?
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by umrdyldo
LDK is direct injection I believe. Pistons won't work. They are dished for DI
This was just addressed above. DI pistons won't change the CR much on an nonDI set up.
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by flaminace
Wouldn't dished in a non di car just lower the compression?
I believe the reason the DI piston are dished the way they are is for proper burn of fuel from the direct injection finer mist. .

I may be wrong. I'm not sure anyone has tried those pistons on an LSJ or 2.2 car.
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 11:45 AM
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So what the hell is the difference? Lmao
I mean, if it's the burn, I'll have 60lb injectors. Not sure if that'll be ok or not, but yea. Lol.
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 12:05 PM
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So, on the zzp website, it says the take out lnf/ldk pistons and rods will work in an lsj. Therefore, they should also work in the 2.2 engine. Correct?
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 12:18 PM
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yes... this is what i said lol
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Slowbalt2000
yes... this is what i said lol
What about the LE5?
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le5 has a different bore and a different length rod.
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Slowbalt2000
le5 has a different bore and a different length rod.
So no, then. Lol
What alternative upgrades do you recommend? 06 LE5 rods, forged pistons?
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Slowbalt2000
yes... this is what i said lol
Lol. Sorry man. I'm running off 3 hours of sleep, and I'm sick. My head is not all there at the moment. Since zzp is out of stock on the ldk rods and pistons, I think I'll get some stock lsj's I found on eBay for $180. Waiting for the turbo kit is going to be the hardest part. =\
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 03:30 PM
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the lsj stock bottom end has handled 500hp

by changing the rod length you do not destroke an engine

the lsj rods are not a true forged rod they are cast then hit with a rod press a few times then the cap broken off

lsj rod is a lot shorter then the 2.2 so if you used a lsj rod and piston you will lower the compression roughly half a point or a little more a few people have done the lsj rod piston combo swap into a 2.2 years ago

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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 04:16 PM
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What turbo kit did you get?
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 04:22 PM
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What turbo kit did you get?
Haven't gotten it yet, but I'm getting the zzp bolt on for the 2.2 with the stage 3 options.

And mr.belvedere, thank you.
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Old Apr 4, 2014 | 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
the lsj stock bottom end has handled 500hp

by changing the rod length you do not destroke an engine

the lsj rods are not a true forged rod they are cast then hit with a rod press a few times then the cap broken off

lsj rod is a lot shorter then the 2.2 so if you used a lsj rod and piston you will lower the compression roughly half a point or a little more a few people have done the lsj rod piston combo swap into a 2.2 years ago
You wouldn't happen to have a link to that, would you? I can't find anything on it.
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Old Apr 8, 2014 | 06:38 PM
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Do u need to use a lsj crank to for the swap?
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