2.2L L61 Performance Tech 16 valve 145 hp EcoTec with 155 lb-ft of torque

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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 08:49 PM
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this may be a dumb question

why specifically can someone with a 2.2 liter cobalt not swap computers to one from a cavilier? it seems that this would solve alot of our "nobody can crack our computer" problems, it also seems that there has been little change in the engine between the cavi and cobalt so wouldn't alot of their parts, ie turbo or supercharger kits, work with the balt?
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 08:51 PM
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may be the same engine, but the computer is different.
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 08:52 PM
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not a dumb question.. i asked myself that also cause i want a frickin turbo already. but there are quite a few new things that wont work such as the new throttle body with fly by wire. < correct me if i am wrong
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 08:54 PM
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what i'm looking for is a list of reason or parts that would need to be replaced with a caviliers computer, depending on how much it will take it might be a feasable undertaking and a solution for our problems.
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by cougar2cobalt
what i'm looking for is a list of reason or parts that would need to be replaced with a caviliers computer, depending on how much it will take it might be a feasable undertaking and a solution for our problems.

it's not going to happen. if you want a turbo cavalier, then get a turbo cavalier. if you want a turbo cobalt, you have to wait like the rest of us unless you have thousands and thousands of dollars and nothing but time on your hands.
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 09:16 PM
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not sure how megasquirt works with maf equipped vehicles but you might want to look into that for fuel management.
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 12:33 AM
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So get an ECM and a turbo/supercharger from a cavalier and hook it all up to your cobalt and tell us what happens. What? Nothing fits and the car wont start? I wonder why?
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 01:14 AM
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"you have to wait like the rest of us unless you have thousands and thousands of dollars"



gonna cost that anyways
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by D4u2s0t
may be the same engine, but the computer is different.
Exactly.

It's not a dumb question if you don't know the answer.

To answer your question, your talking about 2 different platform vehicles, 2.2 Cobalts use MAFs...J-bodies use MAPs, you guys have Electronic Throttle Bodies...J-bodies use Mechanical Throttle Bodies etc. etc.

Even if it could for some ungodly reason work, the J-body ECOTEC computers aren't perfect either and are in the same field as you guys...we have 1 bar sensors and don't support boost via computer.
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by IonNinja
not sure how megasquirt works with maf equipped vehicles but you might want to look into that for fuel management.
Megasquirt is a "universal" standalone. It shouldn't matter if you have an MAP or MAF cause it's aim is to control the injectors.
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by cougar2cobalt
what i'm looking for is a list of reason or parts that would need to be replaced with a caviliers computer, depending on how much it will take it might be a feasable undertaking and a solution for our problems.
Seriously, it's just not possible.
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 10:48 AM
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How about droping another engine in the car entirely.
When I say entire, I mean the whole thing and everything that comes with it. Including a new harness and what not.
I mean engine, tranny , computer and gaugues. would that work as long as the engine and computer are whole?
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 10:50 AM
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ted5986 if you want a utrbo that bad then buy one alot of plces will make it for the right amount of money
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by RedBaseBolt
How about droping another engine in the car entirely.
When I say entire, I mean the whole thing and everything that comes with it. Including a new harness and what not.
I mean engine, tranny , computer and gaugues. would that work as long as the engine and computer are whole?
and wiring too.

If you're referring to the J-body ECOTEC setups...

You're talking about a bunch of money spent for the same exact motor but a different computer. With that amount of money, you could have bought a standalone unit and be on your marry way. It's not logical.
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 12:18 PM
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No I'm talking about a V6 solution here

Something Bigger badder and with more boost.

3800 anyone?
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 12:19 PM
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And yes I'm aware it will cost an arm and a ******** but the sheer looks on peoples faces would be priceless in the end.

Especially when you race a GTP and the guy asks " what motors in that?"
you can say "the same one thats in your car!"
haha
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by RedBaseBolt
And yes I'm aware it will cost an arm and a ******** but the sheer looks on peoples faces would be priceless in the end.

Especially when you race a GTP and the guy asks " what motors in that?"
you can say "the same one thats in your car!"
haha
I think it's overkill...dreamable but overkill.

There is one guy who did it on the JBO by the name of Raven and runs 13s w/the 3800 S/C. Why only 13s? Cause he has no type of traction. The amount of money you'll be spending on customization, you could be doing something more practical. I believe at the end of his project costed around $8,000.
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 12:46 PM
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couple guys on the JCO with 3800 S/C swaps.
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 01:59 PM
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f' the 3800 i wanna see a balt with a 350 and a blower lol
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 02:11 PM
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I still think it would be fun to break traction doing 60 mph with street tires
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