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mods that= better mpg?

Old Feb 15, 2007 | 09:07 PM
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mods that= better mpg?

so i have a question, if i install a ram air or cold air intake, header, and cat back exaust i should get better mpg right? just wondering u would think it would free up any restriction.. or will i get worse mpg
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Old Feb 15, 2007 | 09:13 PM
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should get a better mpg. Another mod would be lightweight pulleys. Z-spec offers a lightweight billet crank pulley for $100
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Old Feb 15, 2007 | 09:15 PM
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no no no the more mods the less miles per gallon , header = less mile per gallon , if you have 42lb injectors your gonna use more gas than the guy that has stock ones and if you have 60 lbers your gonna use more gas than the guy that has 42's it takes more fuel to make more power
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Old Feb 15, 2007 | 09:32 PM
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im not planning on switching out my injectors dude im talking basic bolt ons...

bump anybody?

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Old Feb 15, 2007 | 09:41 PM
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put a brick under your pedal
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Old Feb 15, 2007 | 09:42 PM
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ok....more air in the engine + more air out of engine = more fuel needed to burn air/fuel mixture...but at the same time it makes it more efficient....your best way to lower mpg without using more fuel is to reduce the weight of parts
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Old Feb 15, 2007 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Red2.4SS/SC
no no no the more mods the less miles per gallon , header = less mile per gallon , if you have 42lb injectors your gonna use more gas than the guy that has stock ones and if you have 60 lbers your gonna use more gas than the guy that has 42's it takes more fuel to make more power
your wrong about the first part...... obviously bigger injectors equals more fuel

CAI = less work the engine has to do to get air in = better mpg
Exhaust = less work the engine has to do to remove exhaust fumes = better mpg

cant prove that wrong
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Old Feb 15, 2007 | 09:44 PM
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the mods you add can benefit you for good or bad. for example, intake and exhaust increase flow and so you are increasing the ability to make power without adding any mechanical parts. So in normal driving you will benefit from increased power and mileage because for every normal operation the car can complete the task easier than it did before. Be warned though as with the increase of the ability to make power when it is used you will in fact lose gas mileage if you drive aggressively.

Mechanical mods work in the same way though there is a more contrasting difference. Ask for the power? lose lots more gas use only what is needed and you wouldn't increase gas usage.

Injectors give you the ability to use more fuel but does that mean it will be used? not unless you ask for it. It is easier to use up more gas with an increase in injectors because they flow better but unless your driving agressively it will never be used which results in increased gas mileage due to the car being able to get what it needs quicker without running into higher gas loss due to higher rpm.
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Old Feb 15, 2007 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by dimeo09
your wrong about the first part...... obviously bigger injectors equals more fuel

CAI = less work the engine has to do to get air in = better mpg
Exhaust = less work the engine has to do to remove exhaust fumes = better mpg

cant prove that wrong
thats what i figured... i was totaly thinking the same thing..

Originally Posted by halfj99
put a brick under your pedal
hahaha i was talking to my cuz and he said that helps... but he said that he gets better milage because he has an intake and header back exaust

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Old Feb 15, 2007 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by biniecki
should get a better mpg. Another mod would be lightweight pulleys. Z-spec offers a lightweight billet crank pulley for $100
billet pulley = very little reduction in rotating mass = much higher risk for crank and main bearing failure
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Old Feb 15, 2007 | 10:26 PM
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^^^^^^ agreed
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Old Feb 15, 2007 | 10:33 PM
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the more mods you have the more you will wanna floor it so if you wanna save gas stay stock. i went through over half a tank of gas the week i got my intake, b/c i wanted to hear it.
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Old Feb 15, 2007 | 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by kjn24
the more mods you have the more you will wanna floor it so if you wanna save gas stay stock. i went through over half a tank of gas the week i got my intake, b/c i wanted to hear it.
thats why i dont have n02 because i WOULD USE IT...
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Old Feb 15, 2007 | 11:27 PM
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the only mod that REALLY saves gas is switching to a higher compression, because your making more power off of the exact same volume of fuel/air
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Old Feb 15, 2007 | 11:34 PM
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get the tornado fuel saver and tell us how it works.


lol
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Old Feb 15, 2007 | 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Red2.4SS/SC
no no no the more mods the less miles per gallon , header = less mile per gallon , if you have 42lb injectors your gonna use more gas than the guy that has stock ones and if you have 60 lbers your gonna use more gas than the guy that has 42's it takes more fuel to make more power
Actually that is not entirely true...

It's not about what modifications you really have per say but it's about how efficient your engine is breathing and how much fuel you're using. Ultimately, gas mileage is about how much fuel you're using throughout crusing. If you have something like HP Tuners or a wideband, you can watch your a/f ratios probably lean out while you're at light throttle (probably something around 14-15 a/f). If you're able to provide more air enter or have more air exit efficiently during light throttle, the less throttle you ultimately have to give to reach a certain speed at a certain time.

Hopefully this makes sense.

Originally Posted by OniMirage
the mods you add can benefit you for good or bad. for example, intake and exhaust increase flow and so you are increasing the ability to make power without adding any mechanical parts. So in normal driving you will benefit from increased power and mileage because for every normal operation the car can complete the task easier than it did before. Be warned though as with the increase of the ability to make power when it is used you will in fact lose gas mileage if you drive aggressively.

Mechanical mods work in the same way though there is a more contrasting difference. Ask for the power? lose lots more gas use only what is needed and you wouldn't increase gas usage.

Injectors give you the ability to use more fuel but does that mean it will be used? not unless you ask for it. It is easier to use up more gas with an increase in injectors because they flow better but unless your driving agressively it will never be used which results in increased gas mileage due to the car being able to get what it needs quicker without running into higher gas loss due to higher rpm.
Well explained.

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Old Feb 15, 2007 | 11:46 PM
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thats why i dont have n02 because i WOULD USE IT...
its true, but after my 3rd bottle i got it outta my system and i only use it at the track or wen i realy need to shame some lil beat-up ricer. In all honesty if u can make a car powerful enough to run around mid 12s i hav respect for u no matter wat kinda car it is. now if u hav a beat up old car (no offense to old beat-up cars) and u swear u can beat a corvette den u just need to b given a good lesson.
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Old Feb 15, 2007 | 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by halfj99
put a brick under your pedal
Isn't it funner if you put it over the pedal?
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by OniMirage
Injectors give you the ability to use more fuel but does that mean it will be used? not unless you ask for it. It is easier to use up more gas with an increase in injectors because they flow better but unless your driving agressively it will never be used which results in increased gas mileage due to the car being able to get what it needs quicker without running into higher gas loss due to higher rpm.

wrong higher flowing injectors, are HIGHER FLOWING INJECTORS thats why you need tune after you get them, more fuel can and does flow through the injector at any given time, the injector hole is either bigger or there is more of them...

high flow injectors = worse gas milage
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 11:40 AM
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lower your car... that should make your mpg better on the highway.... so it doesnt pull like a sail boat if u go fast lol
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by dimeo09
wrong higher flowing injectors, are HIGHER FLOWING INJECTORS thats why you need tune after you get them, more fuel can and does flow through the injector at any given time, the injector hole is either bigger or there is more of them...

high flow injectors = worse gas milage
Your statement says because they have a higher flow rating your always at wide open throttle correct? because after all they are higher flowing injectors so there is no way for them to not run at lower pulses correct? I gained roughly 2 mpg when I jumped straight from stock to stage 2 ... all the proof I needed to re confirm what i already knew was right there, I get what I need at lower rpm so not entering higher rpm means I save on fuel. I agree with you about the need for tuning so I should have mentioned that though.
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