2.2L L61 Performance Tech 16 valve 145 hp EcoTec with 155 lb-ft of torque

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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 02:55 PM
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thank you, that is just the information i was looking for.
thanks again for the great info
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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 03:11 PM
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Just an off the wall one here... have you considered just finding a LSJ in a junk yard and swapping in the rotating assembly? You'll get the forged parts and the lower compression ratio... then you can up the boost.
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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 03:11 PM
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Man i felt the same way, but i guess i just have that itch for more power. Which is why im getting more =P

GL at the track, cant wait to see your times. Would have been fun to run our cars together and see how they both perform. But im not anywhere close to you lol.
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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 03:29 PM
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Man i felt the same way, but i guess i just have that itch for more power. Which is why im getting more =P
^^that's usually how it goes. lol
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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by RaineMan
Just an off the wall one here... have you considered just finding a LSJ in a junk yard and swapping in the rotating assembly? You'll get the forged parts and the lower compression ratio... then you can up the boost.
has that been proven to work yet?
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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 06:51 PM
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has that been proven to work yet?
well it could work. The parts are interchangeable, but I would just get the whole shortblock. Save alotta hassle

if you were going to tear your block apart I'd put something alot stronger than stock lsj internals.
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 09:34 AM
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well, i am actually the manager of a junk yard in joliet, il. so finding another motor wouldnt be too hard, but im not really looking for any more power out of this thing because my dad and i have a 1967 chevy II that has a 383ci stroker, with 12.5:1 compression, that we race at route 66. that thing is crazy fast, it makes about 600 horsepower on motor, and is built for a 300hp shot of nitrous.
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by alexo06
well, i am actually the manager of a junk yard in joliet, il. so finding another motor wouldnt be too hard, but im not really looking for any more power out of this thing because my dad and i have a 1967 chevy II that has a 383ci stroker, with 12.5:1 compression, that we race at route 66. that thing is crazy fast, it makes about 600 horsepower on motor, and is built for a 300hp shot of nitrous.
But you know whats better then 1 fast car? 2 fast cars!!! lol
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 09:46 AM
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has that been proven to work yet?
I don't think anyone's tried it yet... but I don't see why not. The LSJ is simply a de-stroked 2.2 with stronger internals. The cylinder bore is the same... sounds like it would just slide right in.

Now getting the computer to figure out what's going on might be more problematic... but who knows.

Just some food for thought.
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 09:46 AM
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thats what im sayin, but if i do mod my balt more im gonna hace to save some more money. cause now im broke
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by RaineMan
I don't think anyone's tried it yet... but I don't see why not. The LSJ is simply a de-stroked 2.2 with stronger internals. The cylinder bore is the same... sounds like it would just slide right in.

Now getting the computer to figure out what's going on might be more problematic... but who knows.

Just some food for thought.
I was $200 away from having a LSJ and tranny at my front door. Speed Mafia found us a wrecked Ion RL that was up for bid. The engine and tranny were fine. We could have outbit the guy in the last 2 minutes for $2100 but decided not to. I was going to do a full engine and tranny swap on my car and put my turbo kit on the lsj and run twincharged. We decided the price was a bit high, but now that i think about it, it woulda been pretty damn cool =P Almost wish we went through with it.
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 11:47 AM
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looking good, we need some race videos when you go. I wonder how our cars would do in comparison.
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 01:02 PM
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I'm pretty sure you cant swap the heads so you'll need the whole motor.
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 01:10 PM
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I'm pretty sure you cant swap the heads so you'll need the whole motor.

Heads no... I mean the actual rotating assembly... pistons/rods/crankshaft.
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 01:19 PM
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Yeah but he was talking about not wanting to disassemble the block.
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 01:30 PM
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Yeah but he was talking about not wanting to disassemble the block.
Ah... indeed... gonna have to if he wants more unfortunately.
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 04:18 PM
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Just an off the wall one here... have you considered just finding a LSJ in a junk yard and swapping in the rotating assembly? You'll get the forged parts and the lower compression ratio... then you can up the boost.
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-4l-le5-performance-tech-46/attn-all-2-2-2-4-cobalts-ions-75777/
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 04:41 PM
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okay... that link is way too long for me to make heads or tails out of... what are you trying to say here Black?
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 04:46 PM
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I'm pretty sure you cant swap the heads so you'll need the whole motor.
well that sux. why won't they swap over? Just a different bolt pattern or something else?
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 04:05 AM
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hey guys i want to make a new cat-back, but i dont know what size piping to go with, is 3in. too big, or not, just looking for some advice.
thanks
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 06:33 AM
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okay... that link is way too long for me to make heads or tails out of... what are you trying to say here Black?
It is like 30 seconds of reading...

...2.4 bottom with an LSJ head...

...flywheels are the only thing keeping the F23 Balts/Ions from using the F35
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 09:52 AM
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Yeah im going to be running forged JE Pistons and using the LSJ Rods for them, on stock compression. Should be interesting, hopeing that theres no ka-boom haha....Just need more funds to put it all together....Anyone want to donate to the Build ORT's Car fund? lol
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by alexo06
hey guys i want to make a new cat-back, but i dont know what size piping to go with, is 3in. too big, or not, just looking for some advice.
thanks
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depends what you want to do. Really it doesn't matter too much since the turbo provides it's own backpressure. I'd just stick with 2 1/2 if you don't plan on uppin the boost. Mostly for sound purposes.

Originally Posted by steddy2112
It is like 30 seconds of reading...

...2.4 bottom with an LSJ head...

...flywheels are the only thing keeping the F23 Balts/Ions from using the F35
well say if you were going to swap the f35 onto the l61... couldn't you just use the f23 flywheel/clutch(or even an upgraded one)? Or does it not line up?

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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 09:29 PM
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i finally got some pictures of the car, its coming along nicely, and finally clean, sorry it took so long for an update, tell me what you think guys. thanks for looking.










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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 09:55 PM
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glad to see you are turboed, hows it running? you might be one of the 1st 2.2's with that setup that weve seen thus far.
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