2.2L L61 Performance Tech 16 valve 145 hp EcoTec with 155 lb-ft of torque

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Old Apr 5, 2009 | 05:01 PM
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Thats not bad at all, good stuff!!!
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Old Apr 5, 2009 | 05:08 PM
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Pretty impressive. Do you have the bottom end actually built yet? Or waiting to get built?
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Old Apr 5, 2009 | 05:12 PM
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well the car usally flatlines at 55rpms with the stock intake mani and cams..
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Old Apr 5, 2009 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Sentry
Pretty impressive. Do you have the bottom end actually built yet? Or waiting to get built?
im buying a banks engineering block, one of the ones good till 1800whp and im going to get the port head and go from there and build it up. then swap motors

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well the car usally flatlines at 55rpms with the stock intake mani and cams..
strange cause before when i dynoed the car it would hold right till 7300RPM
and its the same with everyone else i know with a 2.2

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Old Apr 15, 2009 | 06:04 AM
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Could be in the tune?
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Old Apr 15, 2009 | 09:08 AM
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it's always in the tune.
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 10:55 PM
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Okay well im getting really sick and tired of my Vulcan racing turbo manifold! no matter what i do i can not keep the turbo from backing off the manifold, im sorry guys its a nice manifold but VERY poor set up.. the flange agenst the log causes issues for the bolts.
i used high temp, high strength lock tite and that didnt hold, i used lock washers and that didt hold. the issue im having is that the bolts cant thread thru the flange so i cant put one of them crazy nuts on it that cut into the bolt...
so this is what im doing! im cutting the flange off and adding onto it making the flange farther off the log and adding a T3 flange.
im jumping from the GT28 and going to a GT35
next question is.... what size injectors cani get away with using the stock fuel rail... right now im running the 42.5 lb/h ones with out any modifcation to the rail.
OR can i upgrade my fuel rail to something else? like does anyone make a fuel rail?
and lastly does anyone know and vendors who sell EMS for the 2007 2.2?

Little update:
Car works great other then the fact i always have to tighten bolts up.
i fixed the intercooler as much as i could but i dont wanna fool around with the pipe so im leaving it where it is.

whats next.
the modification to the turbo manifold
gt35 turbo
79lb/h injectors
walbro 255 fuel pump
banks block sleeved
installing my crank, rods, pistons head studs
port and polished 2.0 head (if i can with the crank position sensor)
valves, valve springs, retainers
cams, cam gears
and meth!
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 11:07 PM
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Dayum, a 35r , that's a BFTurbo for a cobalt, your gonna break stuff, lol.... Did you contact Vulcan about the issue? They usually work hard to fix any issues. Good luck with this, sounds like it will be a beast. If you are going with a standalone system, i vote AEM. If not trifecta or hpt...
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 12:26 AM
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Ur fuel tai is not a restriction, but u can always get a lsj one(for looks) but u can fit 79lbs injectors, zzp has them on their site, as for the bolts, r u using bolts to tighten down? Or u 4 studs with nuts to tighten the turbo down? I recommend both, use studs and nut on 2 diagnolly opposed holes, and bolts in the other diagnoly opposed holes
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by b_faulk75
Dayum, a 35r , that's a BFTurbo for a cobalt, your gonna break stuff, lol.... Did you contact Vulcan about the issue? They usually work hard to fix any issues. Good luck with this, sounds like it will be a beast. If you are going with a standalone system, i vote AEM. If not trifecta or hpt...
the only issue with the trifecta is that the air quality between here and there is different, and unless he was right here tuning it, it would take to long to do it.
HPT has nothing and from the sounds of bill wont have nothing for anytime soon.
Stand alone with AEM... hmm never thought of them, they claim their kit has a self adjusting system or tune.
and as for contacting them, no i havnt.

Originally Posted by Jn2
Ur fuel tai is not a restriction, but u can always get a lsj one(for looks) but u can fit 79lbs injectors, zzp has them on their site, as for the bolts, r u using bolts to tighten down? Or u 4 studs with nuts to tighten the turbo down? I recommend both, use studs and nut on 2 diagnolly opposed holes, and bolts in the other diagnoly opposed holes
"Ur fuel tai is not a restriction" what do you mean by this?
the LSJ one will fit in my car? and run right?
also that will fit 79lb/h injectors with out modification?
and i have 2 studs, with my turbo i have to have the 2 studs on the exhaust side cause of lack of room getting a bolt down. but ont he intake side i have the bolts.

Oh and B_faulk, i order the banks block thats already sleeved and is good till 1,800hp
and i have forged everything in my closet chilling, plus multilayer HG

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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by pykie
the only issue with the trifecta is that the air quality between here and there is different, and unless he was right here tuning it, it would take to long to do it.
HPT has nothing and from the sounds of bill wont have nothing for anytime soon.
Stand alone with AEM... hmm never thought of them, they claim their kit has a self adjusting system or tune.
and as for contacting them, no i havnt.



"Ur fuel tai is not a restriction" what do you mean by this?
the LSJ one will fit in my car? and run right?
also that will fit 79lb/h injectors with out modification?
and i have 2 studs, with my turbo i have to have the 2 studs on the exhaust side cause of lack of room getting a bolt down. but ont he intake side i have the bolts.

Oh and B_faulk, i order the banks block thats already sleeved and is good till 1,800hp
and i have forged everything in my closet chilling, plus multilayer HG
I'm using the lsj fuel rail and it works fine. 79lb/h injectors are a bit much, might wanna start out with some 60's, and only after you're fully built and can actually make use of that much fuel. 60's and up on 2.2's tend to cause the pulse width to rise above 1ms which will mess with the idle.
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Sentry
I'm using the lsj fuel rail and it works fine. 79lb/h injectors are a bit much, might wanna start out with some 60's, and only after you're fully built and can actually make use of that much fuel. 60's and up on 2.2's tend to cause the pulse width to rise above 1ms which will mess with the idle.
actually 79s are easier to idle then 60's however you'll be running rich at idle .. there are trade offs to either one.. vince has my 60's running pretty good.. but their still a bitch
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 05:52 PM
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ill be running 79lb's in a little over a month. well see how they do.
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 06:00 PM
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Your having an issue with the bolts backing off?! Honestly i have NEVER had that issue before.. shoot me an email theres multiple things that could be causing it, Ill try getting you some correct hardware. It sounds like you need some Grade 8 studs and serrated nuts, i just happen to have some and its what i always suggest, they dig into the metal as you tighten them down.
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Sentry
I'm using the lsj fuel rail and it works fine. 79lb/h injectors are a bit much, might wanna start out with some 60's, and only after you're fully built and can actually make use of that much fuel. 60's and up on 2.2's tend to cause the pulse width to rise above 1ms which will mess with the idle.
been doing alot of askign around and so far everyone i asked said a GT35 and 60's are no good, the GT35 will max them out at 5-8PSI
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by vulcanturbo
Your having an issue with the bolts backing off?! Honestly i have NEVER had that issue before.. shoot me an email theres multiple things that could be causing it, Ill try getting you some correct hardware. It sounds like you need some Grade 8 studs and serrated nuts, i just happen to have some and its what i always suggest, they dig into the metal as you tighten them down.
i had that problem with your manifold for the longest time, then i tack welded the studs in place and used copper nuts w/ lock washers. no more problem.
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by vulcanturbo
Your having an issue with the bolts backing off?! Honestly i have NEVER had that issue before.. shoot me an email theres multiple things that could be causing it, Ill try getting you some correct hardware. It sounds like you need some Grade 8 studs and serrated nuts, i just happen to have some and its what i always suggest, they dig into the metal as you tighten them down.
i used them too, still nothing. im upgrading the turbo anyways the GT28 is to small for the power house im planing on having by next summer.
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Sentry
I'm using the lsj fuel rail and it works fine. 79lb/h injectors are a bit much, might wanna start out with some 60's, and only after you're fully built and can actually make use of that much fuel. 60's and up on 2.2's tend to cause the pulse width to rise above 1ms which will mess with the idle.
yup glad its still working for you man

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"Ur fuel rail is not a restriction" what do you mean by this?
the LSJ one will fit in my car? and run right?
also that will fit 79lb/h injectors with out modification?
and i have 2 studs, with my turbo i have to have the 2 studs on the exhaust side cause of lack of room getting a bolt down. but ont he intake side i have the bolts.
-yes the injectors will fit the stock rail fine
-yes the LSJ rail fit our 2.2's, ask sentry, i sold him the lsj rail i had lying around
-there is a lot of ways to tighten **** down for good, but honestly explaining it is hard, have u tried was mentioned in another post? tack the studs on the manifold, than the nuts with the tapered inlet, and be sure to tighen that **** hard, use a 1/2 wrench if you have to
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 10:49 AM
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we tacked the top stud, the bottom on no, cause theres to much work involved including removing the manifold.
this is over with, i made my mind up, i have somone waiting with $700 for my turbo, so i just need to do what i need to and get the 35 in there
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 12:13 AM
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wow good luck, btw check my thread :p i posted vids hahaha
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 12:18 AM
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YOUR FINNALY GOT BOOST? lol!
congrats! i will look now
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by pykie
YOUR FINNALY GOT BOOST? lol!
congrats! i will look now
hahaah yeah, 5psi on a little rev @idle lol untuned
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 11:56 AM
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Been a long time sense i made a postin here but here i go.

car was done driving around alot for about 4 months and then my second gear let go, i ripped it apart in wanting to part it out and sell it. but nothing sold, so i fixed the body kit and re painted it and put everything back on the car. heres some pics



Charge pipe painted:P

intercooler is dead center, the mouth of the kit is off.

No lowering spring no more.

anyways if anyone knows of a way here i can make the tranny stronger let me know, im gonna rebuild this one and buy a new one too.
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 12:19 PM
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why do u need a stronger tranny? the stock one has been pushed to 300+whp by cavys for years, just needs a better clutch, i recommend the xcedy stgII... also car looks good, i hate the tailights, and the front looks really good
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Old Sep 15, 2009 | 02:51 PM
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Thoguht i would add this as an update!

Today one of my buddies came over and we painted our valve covers getting them ready for the car show this weekend.
he wanted to do green but once i mentioned the blue i had he wanted the blue.
also painted his intake Gun Metal and i painted my head lights gun metal.



Valve Covers


Headlights primed



Valve Covers Primed



Painted





On the Cars




Cars All Done

AND new goodies that came in the mail.


80 lb/hr injectors

I Find that everyone has Either Stock or Black housed headlights, so i thought i would change mine up some, and i painted mine Gun Metal, what do you all think? i love them!

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