2.2L L61 Performance Tech 16 valve 145 hp EcoTec with 155 lb-ft of torque

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Old May 13, 2009 | 07:20 PM
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what exhaust did you run?
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Old May 13, 2009 | 07:21 PM
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Just get an n/a V8............
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Old May 13, 2009 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Preston
a swap i would run into a MILLION more problems.





i think thats the plan..i am thinking this winter
round 3
but doing it right this time




seriously, you need to get hit by a train, twice.



well guys, i will see where i stand in a week. with my descision. i have a few people who already messaged me about the kit. so i will see
if i get a good deal i may take it, how sad it is.

but i will be trying this again, believe that.
will never happen my car is actually fast
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Old May 13, 2009 | 07:50 PM
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Youd think I was talking about shoehorning a M3 engine into an LS... What would make it difficult to put an LSJ motor in... Mounts? F35? Axles, Knuckles, brakes?

I mean jesus christ, people put LS1's in RX7s.... lol
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Old May 13, 2009 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by DaREDss
will never happen my car is actually fast
come now...dont be a dick...just go back to the "i have to compensate for a small dick by hating on ls/lt's" section of the site and call it a day...just cause cause we started with a base model 2.2 doesnt mean we cant build it and that we wont run into problems and want to fix them....cause if that were the case then why dont you just buy a gto or something of the like...cause your car is slow too

Originally Posted by MaxVQ35DE
Youd think I was talking about shoehorning a M3 engine into an LS... What would make it difficult to put an LSJ motor in... Mounts? F35? Axles, Knuckles, brakes?

I mean jesus christ, people put LS1's in RX7s.... lol
too much customness having to do with running an entirely diff wiring harness, all different motor, tranny, EVERYTHING would have to be changed...not worth it...also, if he can get the s/c to work fine, then he will put down more hp/tq with JUST the s/c then a stock s/c would...there's no replacement for displacement

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Old May 13, 2009 | 07:54 PM
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.2 l is NOTHING, forged components is everything with FI

but........ drumrollll please

THE MOTOR IS STRONGER
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Old May 13, 2009 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by DaREDss
will never happen my car is actually fast
Your dick is actually small......mr arrogant.
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Old May 13, 2009 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MaxVQ35DE
.2 l is NOTHING, forged components is everything with FI

but........ drumrollll please

THE MOTOR IS STRONGER
right, but its the basic principle of it lol
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Old May 13, 2009 | 07:59 PM
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i still say Swap.... people are just too lazy nowadays, even the Honduh boys have more brains
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Old May 13, 2009 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by MaxVQ35DE
.2 l is NOTHING, forged components is everything with FI

but........ drumrollll please

THE MOTOR IS STRONGER
.2l is a 10% increase... that would mean a 10% increase in power. would be 265whp opposed to 240whp. Every little bit counts
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Old May 13, 2009 | 08:01 PM
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yea thats why LNFs are producing more whp than 2.4 L neons...

and that would be dandy if the 2.2 could handle 260whp....
back to school boyz
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Old May 13, 2009 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Preston
Turbo, blew 2 turbos. One i knew was gonna blow. The second, i was pissed that it did blow, Garret and everything. Plus how many oil leaks, burning oil, losing coolant..among of some of the big ones.
Listen man, this is going to sound really hostile..

Did you do a **** job on the turbo install...Be honest...

If you **** the install and rush it, it will leak and suck until it's fixed.

Millions of cars have turbos and never have a problem.
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Old May 13, 2009 | 08:21 PM
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whats the problem with the supercharger swap? that should be easy...
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Old May 13, 2009 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by IonNinja
whats the problem with the supercharger swap? that should be easy...
they are talking swapping the whole engine

Originally Posted by MaxVQ35DE
yea thats why LNFs are producing more whp than 2.4 L neons...

and that would be dandy if the 2.2 could handle 260whp....
back to school boyz
apples to oranges...we are talking the same engines for the most part here just diff displacement, you are talking diff motors too...diff designed motors with the same displacement will not make the same power

and as you can see...hunterkiller is making more then 250whp...hmm...

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Old May 13, 2009 | 09:50 PM
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sorry to disappoint.... its 265bhp...maybe 220whp but yes they can make more than 250whp. el mariachi i believe is at 255whp with a modified garret kit.

to VQ35...you're really special if you think all 2.4's will behave the same... by that logic, a VQ35 is only making 250bhp just like dodges 3.5l v6, since all same displacement motors will make the same numbers
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Old May 13, 2009 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by HunterKiller89
sorry to disappoint.... its 265bhp...maybe 220whp but yes they can make more than 250whp. el mariachi i believe is at 255whp with a modified garret kit.

to VQ35...you're really special if you think all 2.4's will behave the same... by that logic, a VQ35 is only making 250bhp just like dodges 3.5l v6, since all same displacement motors will make the same numbers
how do you know what the crank hp is??? did you put it on an engine dyno?
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Old May 13, 2009 | 10:18 PM
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don't thro in the towel.. like people said .. custom will always bring up issues.. i love my car .. but hate all the BS because it's custom when you're some of the few people running a setup trouble shooting isn't always easy and things don't always go perfect.. it's the way of the world man.. don't give up ..

honestly i'll have more respect for someone that went the extra mile.. to do something custom.. as opposed to just getting some kit slapping it on and calling it a day then bragging about how they're supercharged or turboed.. anyone can buy a kit and get someone to do their legwork.. you've done the work.. don't ditch now..
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Old May 13, 2009 | 10:43 PM
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oh i know that would be dumb logic, but 10 % hp for 10% displacement increase on engines with different compressions is just as dumb.

So the logic that a 2.2 is 10% more powerful mod for mod, is flawed based on limitation
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Old May 13, 2009 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by MaxVQ35DE
oh i know that would be dumb logic, but 10 % hp for 10% displacement increase on engines with different compressions is just as dumb.

So the logic that a 2.2 is 10% more powerful mod for mod, is flawed based on limitation
its actually pretty accurate assuming VE remains constant amongst both engines, which is definitely not an unreasonable claim. If you want to get technical, it would have an even higher % increase in power, because it is 10% more displacement in tandem with a higher CR, which will make even MORE power...

Its funny too, cause an NA LSJ is usually around a 132bhp figure, which is about 10% lower than an L61

Now if you're comparing a 1.6l with a 2.4l, then yea, chances are the VE of both engines will be different by a more significant margin
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Old May 15, 2009 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DaREDss
will never happen my car is actually fast
You should ask the stage 2 LS/SC who thought his car would beat mine, how "slow" my car was

60 roll, him in 3rd and me in 4th. I beat him, AND my clutch was slipping. and 3rd is prime for LS's in 3rd.

Now think me with a clutch and in 3rd gear, say bye bye.
You sir need to leave this thread.


Originally Posted by MaxVQ35DE
i still say Swap.... people are just too lazy nowadays, even the Honduh boys have more brains
and honda swaps ARE WAY EASIER.


Originally Posted by elecblue06
don't thro in the towel.. like people said .. custom will always bring up issues.. i love my car .. but hate all the BS because it's custom when you're some of the few people running a setup trouble shooting isn't always easy and things don't always go perfect.. it's the way of the world man.. don't give up ..

honestly i'll have more respect for someone that went the extra mile.. to do something custom.. as opposed to just getting some kit slapping it on and calling it a day then bragging about how they're supercharged or turboed.. anyone can buy a kit and get someone to do their legwork.. you've done the work.. don't ditch now..

Still up in the air..i have all the supercharged stuff on. waiting for a upper radiator hose basically.
Then start it and see if i still burn oil, if i do..rebuild time and boost it right
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