2.2L L61 Performance Tech 16 valve 145 hp EcoTec with 155 lb-ft of torque
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$300, Yes, I have an '05-'06
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$400, Yes, I have an '05-'06
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$500, Yes, I have an '05-'06
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$300, No, my cobalt is a year other than '05-'06
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$400, No, my cobalt is a year other than '05-'06
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$500, No, my cobalt is a year other than '05-'06
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Maybe (why are you on the edge?)
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No, I'm fine with Vince doing the tuning.
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Old 11-15-2009, 12:52 PM
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I voted yes, of course Id like to have an option, perhaps even a cheaper one when th time comes, but I would have no problems using LS2E if thats all that is out. I would rather have a system that works like HPTs credit system though, as LS2E is retarded expensive if you need to tune more than 4 cars.
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well i just got another update from Rick Trudo CEO of SCT, I asked him when they will be offering their software and this is his response

We are working on it now, we normally sell through dealers or WD, but. Yes you will be able to buy through our web site. I will let you know when we are ready
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Originally Posted by mrsilent13
well i just got another update from Rick Trudo CEO of SCT, I asked him when they will be offering their software and this is his response
badass.
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well if it's like the normal setup you'll need to become an sct dealer .. which is like 2k then like 300 for each handset ...

not to mention based on their other products it looks like it'd be 400 for the personal tuner or so and you can only do yourself...
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here is an update from SCT

If you buy the software package you can tune as many cars as you want, but will need a X3 device for each car. We sell tuner, we sell to dealers at a wide range of pricing depending on quantity, and to the end packet it is somewhere around $379
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well if it's like the normal setup you'll need to become an sct dealer .. which is like 2k then like 300 for each handset ...
no we dont need to become dealers...thats ussually the way they do it...but they are changing their businees

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Old 11-16-2009, 02:45 PM
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I have no problem spending $379 and it only working on my car, but if its over $499 it better be comparably priced to HPT.

Looking forward to this as I feel I may have some tinkerin' feelins' comin on.

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Old 11-16-2009, 10:22 PM
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I would pay up to $350 to get software to tune my own cobalt and since I plan to get another balt I would perfer a discounted rate to tune it. Hopefully it is in the same format as Cobb software or K-pro because I am familiar with those two and I would be dyno tuning anyways.

Sidenote, I know I dont have much done to the car, I am refering to the dyno when I eventually let my engine meet a twinscroll.
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im not too familiar with the SCT software but it looks very similar to the HPT software....im not too worried about it because our Power and Performance course at UTI revolves around the SCT software and we will be doing some tuning using that...this way i will be more familiar with it before i buy it
Old 11-17-2009, 10:39 AM
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I just wish HPTuners would've supported these cars. They make a great product, not to mentiona friend of mine has the software and cable and would probably let me use it for free if I paid for the credits. =(
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Originally Posted by tonio5555
I just wish HPTuners would've supported these cars. They make a great product, not to mentiona friend of mine has the software and cable and would probably let me use it for free if I paid for the credits. =(
hptuners has abandoned pretty much all the ecotec line
Old 11-21-2009, 05:10 PM
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Bumping this up, saw Vince online, hoping he chimes in with some info on this...
Old 11-22-2009, 06:45 PM
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same here i would love self tuning option...
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I voted Maybe.


The reasons I voted maybe.....

1. It would be nice to have a tuning solution available at a moments notice, unless i was fully modded with forced induction this would be useless.
2. I'd rather leave tuning to the people that do this for a living, while still being able to look over settings or get walked through adjustments as needed. doubtful this would come as a combo. Would save Vince a bunch of money though......
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I voted yes, it'll be a learning curve i've messed with HPT and SCT up at school.
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Originally Posted by HunterKiller89
im figuring out if Vince (or anyone else for that matter) has a market to sell to. He has been tinkering with the idea of releasing DIY tuning software
he already has something that would work, he would just need to make the tables for the gui to use. Ive seen it and seen him use it on my car

example, he needed to tune out my rear 02 sensor code...so he loaded this up, pulled a drop down, and selected the number of times that code has to trip before it throughs it on the dic...easy and no coding haha.

in short, i would rather have vince do it...simply because i would rather have someone with the professional experiance do it and do it right, then maybe **** up the car on my own. i suppose if i could buy the tool and use it for the simple stuff (changing tire size, turning off codes, changing rev limither, changine between tunes he has written, etc) i would do it...but i would still go to him to write the tune for the car itself as far as drivability and afr etc

Originally Posted by tonio5555
I just wish HPTuners would've supported these cars. They make a great product, not to mentiona friend of mine has the software and cable and would probably let me use it for free if I paid for the credits. =(
for the sc even they make a **** product...they lock it down so you can only do what they want to let you do...its pretty BS

you can get so much more out of a tune by someone like vince then by hpt

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Old 03-27-2010, 01:03 PM
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so whats the status of this? i would like to learn to tune myself, i got a friend here who has tuning experience and willing to tune my car for me for free
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I have an 07 (if you can't tell) and I'd be willing to do my own for the price of $400 or $500...I think that's reasonable considering a re-tune is $50 each time. And it would be great if I could spend the $400 or $500 right now and tune as is (with just intake), then re-tune when I get my exhaust installed. Then again, when I go SC down the road without having to have him (Vince) do all the work himself.

I don't know about others, but to me, that seems like quite a reasonable price. And, for down the road if I wanted to tune it back to stock or do something else, then I could.
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i just wanna be able to tune right when i want to instead of having to wait. like if i wanted to go to the track tonight, then boom i can get my car ready instead of havin to wait for a week or 2 depending on how flooded vince is with others
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^That's another very valid point.
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i have a question about how vince does business, when you pay him 250 for the cable and he e-mails you the software, do you have to pay another 250 when you add something to your car that requires a tune like a supercharger?
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To my understanding, if it's a small change (say you have intake, header, dp, cat-back and add the 2.4 intake mani and 2.4 TB, then it is a $50 re-tune), but when you go with something bigger like FI, then yes, I believe it's a full-charge re-tune because he's not just tweaking a few things, but re-doing the entire tune.
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Originally Posted by 007CobaltLS
To my understanding, if it's a small change (say you have intake, header, dp, cat-back and add the 2.4 intake mani and 2.4 TB, then it is a $50 re-tune), but when you go with something bigger like FI, then yes, I believe it's a full-charge re-tune because he's not just tweaking a few things, but re-doing the entire tune.
ok thank you i really needed to know this because im about to order zzp's supercharge kit in about 2 months but i was tempted to go ahead and get it tuned because it's running like **** with what i have on it now (see below)
Old 03-28-2010, 01:09 PM
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Well you should know what I voted for... Althought I will not see my car again for another 2 years since bringing it to germany would be WAY too much of a hassle.
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Yeah, that's my plan...I was going to tune as soon as I have my header/DP, catback on because I want to go for MPG's, then down the road, get it re-tuned when I SC...but now that ZZP has the kit out, I'm going to run un-tuned with basic bolt-ons until I can get the kit, then tune it.


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