2.2L L61 Performance Tech 16 valve 145 hp EcoTec with 155 lb-ft of torque

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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 01:59 PM
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whats the difference between the short ram and the regular? this is my first time putting Mods on a car. i usually just fix em haha i mean the engine of course
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 02:07 PM
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I'm not 100% sure, but I do know that short ram intake is higher up in the engine and cold air intake dips down by the wheel usually. I'm pretty sure that CAI has a higher HP gain.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 02:15 PM
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ok cuz i hear people say they change it from the CAI to the SRI and i dont know if that increases HP gain or not
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 02:18 PM
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Well SRI is better in terms of protection. You aren't going to get any water in there that way.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 02:19 PM
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it all depends on you car some short rams will produce better gains while some cai will. it depends on the car and the heat in the engine bay. our would probably benefit from a cold air better than ram.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 02:24 PM
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I did some research... SRS will give you higher gains before "heat soak" occurs. SRS have a less restrictive airflow because it's more or less a straight pipe with a filter. CAI will give you cold air all the time, but not as much of a gain. when it comes down to it, if you're moving over 30 mph, heat soak isn't going to occur because all that air loses its energy (heat) when it rushes under the hood at a high speed.

The only downside to CAI i've seen is people loosing filters or sucking up water on rainy days.
I think this one is just personal preference. I'd go with whatever you feel is better and suits you.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 02:27 PM
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Or you can make your exisiting setup into a CAI like I did. Guaranteed to not fall off. Produces a great SC whine and the same hp +'s. Still have to worry about water though. I am going to get a k and n sleeve off of ebay.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 02:27 PM
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wait just noticed not the SC thread SORRY !!!!
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 02:42 PM
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well i have the 2.2L. anyone with the a 2.2 have any suggestions? as in SRI or CAI? the water getting into the cone sounds scary... but yet the heat soak does too.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 02:44 PM
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short ram is better on these cars i think , with mine as short when im done running the car i cant feel around the filter area and there is not much heat there at all
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 02:57 PM
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In my opinion I like the short ram ALOT better. To me it looks better under the hood than the CAI and you don't really have to worry about it that much and it is easier to install
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 03:04 PM
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In my opinion I like the short ram ALOT better. To me it looks better under the hood than the CAI and you don't really have to worry about it that much and it is easier to install
this is also true
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 03:12 PM
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Shorts ram intakes will provide no more power gain than a full CAI. It doesn't matter if the intake tube on the CAI is a little longer than the SRI.

Air is pressurized all around us (atmosphere), the longer tube will still have air inside of it at all times.

So basically all you are doing by going with a SRI over CAI is saving money and sucking up hot air.

As for CAI sucking up water or the filter falling off that would be due to a cheap/porrly designed CAI kit or installer error.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by codyss
Shorts ram intakes will provide no more power gain than a full CAI. It doesn't matter if the intake tube on the CAI is a little longer than the SRI.

Air is pressurized all around us (atmosphere), the longer tube will still have air inside of it at all times.

So basically all you are doing by going with a SRI over CAI is saving money and sucking up hot air.

As for CAI sucking up water or the filter falling off that would be due to a cheap/porrly designed CAI kit or installer error.
breathe thru a short straw a few times, then breathe thru a long straw, then tell me which one lets you breathe easier...
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by codyss
Shorts ram intakes will provide no more power gain than a full CAI. It doesn't matter if the intake tube on the CAI is a little longer than the SRI.

Air is pressurized all around us (atmosphere), the longer tube will still have air inside of it at all times.

So basically all you are doing by going with a SRI over CAI is saving money and sucking up hot air.

As for CAI sucking up water or the filter falling off that would be due to a cheap/porrly designed CAI kit or installer error.
i've known many people to hydro-lock their motor due to a CAI...and 90% of these people had their intakes done by professional shops.....some of the cars include a 2000 civic SI...2002 SS Camaro.....2004 Pontiac GTO...and a 1999 Chevy Cavalier....the brands included AEM, K&N, and Gravana.....so I highly doubt it was because of installation problems and as for poorly designed CAI...I think those are pretty reputable companies...but once again it comes down to personal preference.......we did a dyno on another friends 2005 GTO with both a short ram and true CAI......he actually dynoed EXACTLY THE SAME with both
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 06:28 PM
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The straw theory has little to do with this. A good CAI will account for length with diameter changes.

As for a 2002 Camaro SS sucking up water with a CAI, BS! Every CAI for LS1's sits over 2 feet off the ground.

If it was a WS6 or Firehawk if they took the water bafflers out or if the worthless under car ram air kit was used maybe this could happen.

But that is above and beyond adding a CAI and they knew the risks.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 07:02 PM
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thanks everyone
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by codyss
The straw theory has little to do with this. A good CAI will account for length with diameter changes.

As for a 2002 Camaro SS sucking up water with a CAI, BS! Every CAI for LS1's sits over 2 feet off the ground.

If it was a WS6 or Firehawk if they took the water bafflers out or if the worthless under car ram air kit was used maybe this could happen.

But that is above and beyond adding a CAI and they knew the risks.
The ram air kits that were basically a sheet metal duct that went from the bottom of the airbox to the bottom of the air dam did cause ls1 cars to hydrolock. The stock ss, ws6, firehawks didnt have any problems though.
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 03:30 AM
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Go for the injen 2 piece cold air/short ram kit you can run the short ram in the winter and the cold air in the summer
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 05:07 AM
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Run the full Cold Air Intake. You live in Texas, heat is paramount and road salt etc at a minimum.

Just don't do something stupid like drive through water deeper than 6 inches on the passenger side. You won't have any problems. The filter is protected from road spray by the front bumper and fender liners. Only if you submerge the filter completely will you manage to hydrolock your engine.
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 02:04 PM
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yeh thats true. i think yesterday was the most we had rain... it wasnt even half an inch haha! sprinkles
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 02:50 PM
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i would say the short ram would be the best bet but you do what you think will work for you
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 03:55 PM
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Thanks for all the info everyone. I love the Injen that is two in one. SRI sounds good for the winter and CAI in the summer for me here in Michigan. Even though it has been a mild winter so far.
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