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Old Nov 24, 2007 | 09:07 PM
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So what else can we do? 2.2L

Besides the 2.4L Intake manifold, intake, header, downpipe, and exhuast what else can we do?

I suppose motor mounts, tranny mounts, etc... but power adders.

Not a fan of nitrous, anything else?
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Old Nov 24, 2007 | 09:08 PM
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remove that head and throw in some high compression pistons
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Old Nov 24, 2007 | 09:10 PM
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^^what he said... internals... lsj head?
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Old Nov 24, 2007 | 09:11 PM
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I have an 06... doesn't matter about tuning? I don't want to go piggy back as that's too in depth and would rather just trade in for a new 08.
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Old Nov 24, 2007 | 09:12 PM
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I have an 06... doesn't matter about tuning? I don't want to go piggy back as that's too in depth and would rather just trade in for a new 08.
High Compression pistons dont require tuning, just higher octane gasoline
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Old Nov 24, 2007 | 09:12 PM
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we dont have tuning for the 2.2s so it doesnt matter.. or you can just get the lnf cobalt lol
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Old Nov 24, 2007 | 09:23 PM
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How much of a gain would you think to get from the pistons?
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Old Nov 24, 2007 | 09:25 PM
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ummm HACK???? lol
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Old Nov 24, 2007 | 09:28 PM
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You don't want to get into tuning? HOLY COW BATMAN!

That is by far the best bang for the buck you can do, and when you get past your basic bolt ons tuning is a MUST! HP Tuners is user friendly...but I wish I could do that for my car. Try reading up on MS II or even MS I.

Just get use to maybe having to go into tuning. If you don't feel like messing with it you can get someone to tune your car for you. But after bolt ons...tuning is very very essential.
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Old Nov 24, 2007 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackout06LS
You don't want to get into tuning? HOLY COW BATMAN!

That is by far the best bang for the buck you can do, and when you get past your basic bolt ons tuning is a MUST! HP Tuners is user friendly...but I wish I could do that for my car. Try reading up on MS II or even MS I.

Just get use to maybe having to go into tuning. If you don't feel like messing with it you can get someone to tune your car for you. But after bolt ons...tuning is very very essential.
HE has a 2.2 there is NO tuning for us avalible to the public... so HPT is a NO GO.....


its not like we are in the 2.2 section for a reason... jk
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Old Nov 24, 2007 | 09:31 PM
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I would love to be able to tune with HP Tuners, What I meant by too in depth is having to rewire a piggy back in to everything.

I'm just trying to decide wether I should keep what I've got or trade up.

I thought someone said Comp 1 cams, but not sure if that's gunna increase gains either.

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Old Nov 24, 2007 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by sick06cobalt
HE has a 2.2 there is NO tuning for us avalible to the public... so HPT is a NO GO.....


its not like we are in the 2.2 section for a reason... jk
I owned a 2.2L(hint LS on my User name) and IIRC I'm the only one in here to try to use a SAFC-II on our cars. There are ways to get around the tuning. But that is where the $$$ gets on up there.

You can get a 05 ECU and a wiring harness and a custom tune to where everything works. But it is not cost effective.
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Old Nov 24, 2007 | 09:33 PM
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like hack and i said... internals like pistons cams ect.... but again tuning is NO go... SCT hasnt release the tuning for our 2.2s other than in the garrett turbo kit....so piggy back is the only way to go... and you dont HAVE to tune...
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Old Nov 24, 2007 | 09:38 PM
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As I said "High Compression Pistons don't require tuning"

They don't increase the amount of air or anything, just ups the compression for more power.
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Old Nov 24, 2007 | 09:38 PM
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In order to get the most out of the turbo kit you have to tune. I haven't done a lot of research into the turbo kit as I don't have the Cobalt, but they had to come up with a way to have fuel management. It's set to run the car rich so its safe and the user won't blow their engine up once they install it. You have to have a fuel management in place to run forced induction unless you want to risk having the stock ECU settings supply the greater amount of demand for fuel. Therefore, they had to run a tune to get the A/F ratio to a safe range.

Pistons is all I see other than camshafts, head work that do not NEED tune, but you get more bang for the buck if you get things tuned. Which the only way would be a stand alone. That's the way to get the most out of the modifications is to tune the ECU to run the best way with those modifications. That is all I'm saying getting a tune is the best way to get maximum power out of your engine.
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Old Nov 24, 2007 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackout06LS
In order to get the most out of the turbo kit you have to tune. I haven't done a lot of research into the turbo kit as I don't have the Cobalt, but they had to come up with a way to have fuel management. It's set to run the car rich so its safe and the user won't blow their engine up once they install it. You have to have a fuel management in place to run forced induction unless you want to risk having the stock ECU settings supply the greater amount of demand for fuel. Therefore, they had to run a tune to get the A/F ratio to a safe range.

Pistons is all I see other than camshafts, head work that do not NEED tune, but you get more bang for the buck if you get things tuned. Which the only way would be a stand alone. That's the way to get the most out of the modifications is to tune the ECU to run the best way with those modifications.
LIKE i said.... SCT... has a tune only avalilable for the turbo kit from garrett... they havent released the software or anything... at least to the public... so i mean.... tunin is out of the question for the moment other than piggy backs which he has already said he doesnt want to do...
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Old Nov 24, 2007 | 09:48 PM
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It was the stetement saying there was NO tune available. And I was stating there are ways to get tune without having to go with a standalone.

For the 06 there WILL NOT be enough of a demand that I see for at least a year or so unless they see a lot of people are willing to pay for it. So a easy way to tune for the 06 is out of the question, but there are ways other than going to standalone.
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Originally Posted by HackAbuse
As I said "High Compression Pistons don't require tuning"

They don't increase the amount of air or anything, just ups the compression for more power.
How much more power?
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 12:42 AM
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Depends on how high you wanna go for compression. The higher you go, the higher octane you have to use.
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Switt23
Besides the 2.4L Intake manifold, intake, header, downpipe, and exhuast what else can we do?

I suppose motor mounts, tranny mounts, etc... but power adders.

Not a fan of nitrous, anything else?


With deep enough pockets you can do anything that you can do to any other car.....
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 01:00 AM
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why not just turbo?? then tuning will be provided? lol you want some serious HP lol
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 01:11 AM
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haha. how much pistons run?
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 01:17 AM
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like $600ish
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 01:17 AM
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well it depends on the compression....
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 01:26 AM
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How much have you done to your car Switt? Cuz i don't know if you've done it or not but with a CAI and a full exhaust (header back) it makes a pretty good difference. I just got back from testing my car on a short by-pass run and damn, it may not be as fast as my dad's mustang but it is definatly as fun on the highway (or more fun idk lol). I too am looking to do more to my 2.2 but being i have an 07 i am screwed on the cams thing (damn it!) but from what i hear i may have a better chance at getting tuning. I would say seeing how you have an 06 do cams in addition to the bolt ons. Hack you have me curious now, how much more power would you gain from going higher compression pistons? Lets say for example....11:1?
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