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Old Jan 3, 2011 | 09:10 PM
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Supercharge 2.2 Questions

I've been debating on supercharging my car. I was going to use the eaton m62 supercharger. Before I buy anything though:

Is it safe to do?
Who does this best tune for this set up?
What if my car is an automatic?
What else would I need besides all the supercharger stuff?
How much psi can I do safely on stock internals?
How much would everything cost me?
EDIT: Adding this question. I have seen debate on whats a safe air/fuel ratio number that I've seen on widebands?

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Old Jan 3, 2011 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MyBalt10
I've been debating on supercharging my car. I was going to use the eaton m62 supercharger. Before I buy anything though:

Is it safe to do?yes if well done
Who does this best tune for this set up?TFT
What if my car is an automatic?doesnt matter
What else would I need besides all the supercharger stuff? more gas wideband
How much psi can I do safely on stock internals? IDk
How much would everything cost me?close to 2000
here you go
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Old Jan 3, 2011 | 09:27 PM
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https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/part...er-kit-235636/

Here you go haha
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Old Jan 3, 2011 | 10:24 PM
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Is it safe to do?yes
Who does this best tune for this set up?trifecta
What if my car is an automatic?Supercharging is great if your an auto,auto tranny holds up really well.
What else would I need besides all the supercharger stuff?wideband,option b kit
How much psi can I do safely on stock internals?I forget what I pushed..maybe 16 on a good day
How much would everything cost me?Around $2000
EDIT: Adding this question. I have seen debate on whats a safe air/fuel ratio number that I've seen on widebands? Vince at trifecta will do all that stuff on the tune. He'll let you know what the safe a/f ratio is.

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Old Jan 3, 2011 | 10:29 PM
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Mines at 11 psi.I'm in it for around 1500 or so.I keep my Afrs a little rich to be safe.it's around 11.3
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 10:21 AM
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i think 11 psi is the safety limit for our 2.2's
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 03:37 PM
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i run 14psi with my 2.85 pulley. price depends on how much you can get the parts for.
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 03:53 PM
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I run 15psi with my 2.8 and 60's and INJEN CAI
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 05:07 PM
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seeing 12 psi w/ 3.08" pulley, 60's and 3" OTTP CAI. Saw about 15 psi in CO when I was there 2 weeks ago.
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 05:11 PM
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polished bower is so worth it for the litle extra. you dont see those often
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 05:40 PM
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polished bower is so worth it for the litle extra. you dont see those often
How much hp does that add? Lol
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 05:46 PM
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none. its for looks. just stock ones are ugly my chipping black paint is better than stock..... its not port and polished.... its polished outside unless it also said otherwise.
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Maupin SS/SC
my chipping black paint...
should have prepped it better.
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 06:11 PM
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theres a great how to that an old member did a while back in the how to section for this..
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 06:12 PM
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^^^ trust him ^^^

I read that thread.
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 06:32 PM
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its engine paint... its bound to chip when i drop wrenches and **** lol unless you get it pc'd or really cleared all paint will wear. i just did a quick black to make it look better i plan on pc for the spark cove(lime green) valve cover( met black) and blower( met black with green ribs). then matching lug nuts
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by MyBalt10
I've been debating on supercharging my car. I was going to use the eaton m62 supercharger. Before I buy anything though:

Is it safe to do?yes if it is installed right
Who does this best tune for this set up?Trifecta
What if my car is an automatic?tuning is alittle differnt but thats it from what i understand
What else would I need besides all the supercharger stuff?93 octane, and i would recomend a wideband but its not nessesary
How much psi can I do safely on stock internals?PSI doent really matter ive seen 18 on a stock 2.2, but 250 hp is the rating on the stock internals
How much would everything cost me?depends on where you get it, im selling my full kit for 1400 then you need a tune with will cost you 200 or so
EDIT: Adding this question. I have seen debate on whats a safe air/fuel ratio number that I've seen on widebands?not sure i never had a wide band on mine
if you have any questions ill pm you my number
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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 12:05 PM
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Trifecta? Best tune? Come on guys, Trifecta is a mail order tune its never going to be a good tune. It may be an ok safe tune, but never a good tune. The only way to get a tune is with the tuner sitting in the passenger seat (or drivers seat if you self tune) and the only way to get a great tune is on a dyno.

And btw its not boost its power that is the limit on the stock engine. Stock internals will take 250 wheel which ends up being full exhaust, good tune, and 2.9" or 2.8" pulley. I make about 13 psi with the 2.8" pulley, 14 psi when its really cold outside for reference.
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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Leafydialupking
Trifecta? Best tune? Come on guys, Trifecta is a mail order tune its never going to be a good tune. It may be an ok safe tune, but never a good tune. The only way to get a tune is with the tuner sitting in the passenger seat (or drivers seat if you self tune) and the only way to get a great tune is on a dyno.

And btw its not boost its power that is the limit on the stock engine. Stock internals will take 250 wheel which ends up being full exhaust, good tune, and 2.9" or 2.8" pulley. I make about 13 psi with the 2.8" pulley, 14 psi when its really cold outside for reference.
trifecta tunes arent mail order or canned tunes. Vince tunes the same way any HPtuner would tune your comp over the webs.
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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 05:18 PM
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You're joking right? Unless vince is sitting next to you. A tine from him is mail order. Its not canned though because he does modify it for you car after he gets a data log. But its still not as good as an in person tune and even he admits that.
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Leafydialupking
You're joking right? Unless vince is sitting next to you. A tine from him is mail order. Its not canned though because he does modify it for you car after he gets a data log. But its still not as good as an in person tune and even he admits that.
im just saying its FAR from a night and day difference. He does exactly what a tuner would be doin...checking logs, adjusting the tune, and re-logging.
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 01:03 PM
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Its still not as good a Vince or any good tuner in person. I was trying to find a dyno comparison (I know it was done) but my google fu is weak today. But even without it, look at the lnf guys, big power is coming from tuning over a trifecta tune with hp tuners and only using the trifecta tune for the tables bpt hasnt unlocked yet.
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Leafydialupking
Its still not as good a Vince or any good tuner in person. I was trying to find a dyno comparison (I know it was done) but my google fu is weak today. But even without it, look at the lnf guys, big power is coming from tuning over a trifecta tune with hp tuners and only using the trifecta tune for the tables bpt hasnt unlocked yet.
Well not everyone knows how to tune a supercharged 2.2 and not everyone has a tuner in their backyard waiting to tune them. Do you also know that HPT is not available for all the the 2.2L's. If I'm correct it's only like 08+ or something. So that leaves us only to trifecta and vince has tuned multiple 2.2's with s/c so he is our best bet.
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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 02:05 AM
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HPT will work on 07 and up L61 but has to have a stock tune on it for Hpt to connect to the VCM.I can't really put the stock tune on it then drive it so until someone can come to my house and flash it back to stock and then tune it via HPT then Vince and trifecta will do.There not bad tunes its just a process to get it finalized since he's packed with customers.Just takes time is all.

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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 1LowLS
HPT will work on 07 and up L61 but has to have a stock tune on it for Hpt to connect to the VCM.I can really put the stock tune on it then drive it so until someone can come to my house and flash it back to stock and then tune it via HPT then Vince and trifecta will do.There not bad tunes its just a process to get it finalized since he's packed with customers.Just takes time is all.
Couldn't have said it better my self^^
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