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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 04:46 PM
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TTR - MSD Ignition ?

Sorry if this has already been posted, i searched and came up empty handed or old threads on the subject but no definitive answer on what is needed, i was on TTR website and came across this

http://www.turbotechracing.com/produ...dCategory=5622

will this work and is it all i need?

any how to's on installing it?
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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 05:05 PM
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not worth the gain, thats all i remember, you will need spark plug wires...the rest idk
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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 05:06 PM
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any gain even miniscewl is worth it... all i want to know is if thats all i need and if it works lol.
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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 05:12 PM
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well its made for moded eco's, i know it helps with ignition control, idk, ima just stay out this thread now,i dont like talking about tings idk about, PM hackabuse or facelesschaos they might know
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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 05:24 PM
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i know what msd ignition does... no reason to stay out of the thread lol... im just curious if anyone ever got one actually working, cause the other threads i read, never got finishing results... just seemed to fade over time...
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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 05:25 PM
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why do u want this?
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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 05:27 PM
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its another mod... assuming it works, need to find out if it works, and how to install it...
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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 05:30 PM
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so many better mods to spend money on... wont really do anything to a mildly modded car.

the reason everyone, not just myself and the poster above is going to ask u about it.

if u really have ur heart set you could always ask on ECoTF im sure u would get an answer from a cavi that has done it
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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 05:35 PM
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i don't want to know about a cavi that has done it i want to know about a cobalt thats done it... why is everything a fight around here, why can't someone give a direct answer that knows... i realize there are many better mods to spend money on but thats not the question im asking...

and if its not been done on a cobalt then how can you say its not really going to do anyting to a mildly modded car, i used to have a 03 mazdaspeed protege boosting 12psi and roughly 170hp at 7 psi so guessing around 190 hp at 12 psi maybe more... and a ford focus svt stock 170hp with msd ignition was able to keep up with me...

this is why im curious about msd iginition if its been done on a cobalt i want to hear from someone thats done it their experience what all is involved etc...
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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 05:38 PM
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hold on, lets get one thing straight, this "mod" is not a performance mod, its is a SUPPORTING MOD.

will not give you one lick of a performance gain.
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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by originaladrian
hold on, lets get one thing straight, this "mod" is not a performance mod, its is a SUPPORTING MOD.

will not give you one lick of a performance gain.
i beg to differ. increased spark... increased combustion... increased power.

not to mention making the motor run more efficient = more MPG
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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by knoxbox
i beg to differ. increased spark... increased combustion... increased power.

not to mention making the motor run more efficient = more MPG
your assuming not all the fuel is combusted, which is not true.

The stock ignition system is MORE than capable.

again, this is a supporting mod.

What are your mods? I bet i can find a number of better things for you to spend money on than that.
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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 05:51 PM
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this isn't about spending my money on better, mods, im not even in the process of buying this im rather asking questions at the moment for future reference... like i originally said i came across the link on the site, remembered reading that no one had actually gotten one installed, but those were old threads saw this on ttr website wondered to know if anyone had successfully done this or if ttr is just putting it up there for **** and giggles... <seems to be the common trend for most websites with cobalt related infromation they just throw something up there from other vehicles and say hey this works... not just ttr but other sites as well.

im probably going with some form of an exhaust sytem next, from the header to downpipe new catalyst catback.
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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 05:59 PM
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i understand, there are some FI and heavely modded ecotecs out there so there is a need for this for a few select people.

If you have an questions just ask, i hope i didnt come of like an ass, but i really do like to help people.


as far as the exhaust i would just say do ur research and ask allot of questions first. Many people (including myself) have made bad exhaust decisions leaving them with shitty sounding cars and spending more money.
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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 06:06 PM
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nothing i have heard, sounds to great... i know that sound clips and youtube videos don't do them justice but they all sound horrible to me so far.... i heard good things about magnaflow's sound from people that have them but not sure...

no, i understand what your getting at, just seems like as of late every question i ask on this forum, i get this response... its like WHY DO YOU WANT TO DO THAT????... why do i have to have a why... just give me the answer to the question yanno... this is the first car forum i been to were everyone seems to ask more questions than giving straight answers.... of course im going from import to domestic but that shouldn't change the fact.... if anything the people should be more knowledgeable about domestics cause that is where we are...
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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 06:14 PM
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the main problem people make with the exhaust on the cobalt, esp 2.2 is going with 2 big a diameter pipe, resulting in not only a shitty sounding car but a loss in backpressure/power
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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 06:16 PM
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the cav ignition is the same on the 05-06 2.2 cobalts
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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 06:17 PM
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is 2.5 to big? what is stock 2? on my mazda 3" was the way to go cause it was turbo... but 2.5 should be got for a n/a applications should it not? i was even considering having a custom exhaust made at a muffler type shop... not sure yet tho.

Originally Posted by Rodimus_Prime
the cav ignition is the same on the 05-06 2.2 cobalts
i'm an 08... so im assuming nothing is available as of yet ignition wise.

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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 07:21 PM
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im in love with my exhaust. ZZP midlength header/DP, 2.5in downpipe with a cat, into GMPP 2.25in catback (id go touring)
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 12:30 AM
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stock diameter on an ls is 1.7...so like a peashooter in a way lol. i recomend the ss exhaust system for the 2.2, jus chop the stock muffler off and toss a magnaflow on it. hands down best sounding exhaust for the ls
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 12:43 AM
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it's not that the MSD ignition doesn't do anything for the cobalt, but the fact that coil-on plug ignition systems, especially the one on this car, are extremly adequate, and do as much as and aftermarket system anyways. they're not saying the MSD is a waste of money, so much as with the power levels you're running it's just not necessary. there are cobalts here making over 400hp with no aftermarket ingnition other than colder plugs, because simply put, it's just not needed. there is only one cobalt here that needs/has an auxiliary ignition system, and that is Rod's car. before you ask me who Rod's car is, if you don't know, spend some more time on here and you will learn.

can you get it, and will it work? - YES
will you notice any gains - MORE THAN LIKELY NO
is it worth the time/money - NO

^hope that answers your questions. and the reason these guys bring up the cavy is that the 05 and 06 2.2 balts share a lot with the 04-05 cavi's as far as powerplant issues go.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by ls1fbody
it's not that the MSD ignition doesn't do anything for the cobalt, but the fact that coil-on plug ignition systems, especially the one on this car, are extremly adequate, and do as much as and aftermarket system anyways. they're not saying the MSD is a waste of money, so much as with the power levels you're running it's just not necessary. there are cobalts here making over 400hp with no aftermarket ingnition other than colder plugs, because simply put, it's just not needed. there is only one cobalt here that needs/has an auxiliary ignition system, and that is Rod's car. before you ask me who Rod's car is, if you don't know, spend some more time on here and you will learn.

can you get it, and will it work? - YES
will you notice any gains - MORE THAN LIKELY NO
is it worth the time/money - NO

^hope that answers your questions. and the reason these guys bring up the cavy is that the 05 and 06 2.2 balts share a lot with the 04-05 cavi's as far as powerplant issues go.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 07:40 AM
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and i <3 you too? haha
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 07:42 AM
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and i <3 you too? haha
lol u should/
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 07:48 AM
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