2.2L L61 Performance Tech 16 valve 145 hp EcoTec with 155 lb-ft of torque

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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 09:17 AM
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Tuning My Balt.

So This may sound like a nooby question. But As of now, I do not know any programs that Tune Cobalts, aka 2.2L.
Im sure there is some just I do not know. Any suggestions?
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 09:19 AM
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Trifecta and LS2Edit; soon, HPTuners
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 09:19 AM
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if you read the 2.2 turbo build's, or do a serch you will find this info out
and read the post right below yours and you will see that HP Tuners is coming out with one this year.
other then HP Tuners you have the choice between terifica Tunning, and LS2Edit
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 09:24 AM
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Hmm, Didnt even see any of that. Sorry about that guys!
But since were on the subject, What do you prefer? Are eithe rof you tuned by one of them?
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 09:27 AM
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LS2Edit if you can find a shop and HPTuners when it comes out. Trifecta is a tune that you order off the internet and just load it on your car.. not ideal for people needing to frequently tweek their tune because you cant just go ahead and do it, you must order yet another update tune.
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 09:48 AM
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Yea it would be either the LS2 edit or HP Tuners
just because you can tune when you want, and good to have.
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 11:08 AM
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Well lets say I wanted to tune my car This upcoming weekend. Or the week after. How would I get my hands on LS2Edit
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 11:25 AM
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trifecta does just fine for frequent retunes, you get a cable, or if you're by your dealer, you don't need one, and when it comes time for a retune, we just tweak it. you only need to re order the tune if you drastically change the car, like going from NA to turbo.
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 11:33 AM
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Well Seeing as how I dont have the money for a turbo kit for my car yet. I do want to be tuned.
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 06:26 PM
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Hey Pykie ... Who Here In Nova Scotia Does Tunes Anyways? Been Looking For A While.
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 06:28 PM
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trifecta does just fine for frequent retunes, you get a cable, or if you're by your dealer, you don't need one, and when it comes time for a retune, we just tweak it. you only need to re order the tune if you drastically change the car, like going from NA to turbo.
wait, so you get a cable, does this allow you to log like hpt and send the results in a file to whomever needs to do the adjustments and then have them send back and hook up to the car and reflash it yourself, or will you have to have the whole kit sent out to you again to do that?
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 12:59 PM
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Oh, so HPT is supporting the L61 "this year" wheres this information coming from this time?
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 01:10 PM
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Thats why i wanna know ^^ heard this SOOO MANY times
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 01:18 PM
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Oh, so HPT is supporting the L61 "this year" wheres this information coming from this time?
FYI to the New Members here... HPT has been "working" on the 2.2 ECU since '06...i'm pretty sure theyre not even gonna attempt to work on 05-06 ECUs, and might ONE DAY crack the '07+ ECU
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 01:49 PM
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wait, so you get a cable, does this allow you to log like hpt and send the results in a file to whomever needs to do the adjustments and then have them send back and hook up to the car and reflash it yourself, or will you have to have the whole kit sent out to you again to do that?
yes, you log, just like HP tuners, send it to vince via E-mail, you flash it, log it, e mail the log, ect... If you buy the cable or go through a dealer, there is no sending of kits, of you "rent" his tuner, you need to send it back and forth and keep "renting" it to tune and log. and trifecta supports ALL year cobalts
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 01:55 PM
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yes, you log, just like HP tuners, send it to vince via E-mail, you flash it, log it, e mail the log, ect... If you buy the cable or go through a dealer, there is no sending of kits, of you "rent" his tuner, you need to send it back and forth and keep "renting" it to tune and log. and trifecta supports ALL year cobalts
how much is this said cable?
just hooks up to the obd2?

edit, cable is 250 got that.

so for 250 i could send my tune back and forth after a base can tune and get it perfected for free?
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 02:00 PM
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I saw a rep from HPT post on the L61 thread over there not too long ago stating that they were in development for the E37 for the Cobalt 07+. Should be coming out later this year, it will come with other releases of that ecm that are on other GM cars. That's a lot more promising than what they always said before, which was, "check back later".
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 02:54 PM
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just hooks up to the obd2?

so for 250 i could send my tune back and forth after a base can tune and get it perfected for free?
the cable is $250 without a tune, $200 with a tune, but the tune still costs you. it hooks up to OBD2 on the car and USB on the computer, a dealer offer you a cheaper route, as they have the cable and the computer. you or the dealer get your stock tune for safe keeping, you datalog, once you have a new tune, retunes are free, unless you go forced induction or something else drastic.
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 03:52 PM
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the cable is $250 without a tune, $200 with a tune, but the tune still costs you. it hooks up to OBD2 on the car and USB on the computer, a dealer offer you a cheaper route, as they have the cable and the computer. you or the dealer get your stock tune for safe keeping, you datalog, once you have a new tune, retunes are free, unless you go forced induction or something else drastic.
What is the total initial cost for tune and a cable?
And after that I'd be able to make mods like exhaust blah blah and get retuned etc?
Closest dealer is pittsburgh and that's like 3 or 4 hours so contemplating being a dealer here down here.
I assume that's how most dealers make the money back on the cable etc etc by charging a lil extra to flash and stuff?
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 06:33 PM
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someone should just get the software somehow and tune all css members for free. i'd do it if i could.
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 06:54 PM
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tunes aren't free, not even for dealers, so it would be impossible. you pay $465 shipped for the cable and tune, retunes are free when you change small things like exhaust, intake, ect... correct, dealers make back their money by charging higher than the dealer price for tunes.
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 07:10 PM
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That was just me wishing there was some rich guy on here that had 2 g's to throw around and just buy the tune that allows for an unlimited number of cars
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 2007 ion2
tunes aren't free, not even for dealers, so it would be impossible. you pay $465 shipped for the cable and tune, retunes are free when you change small things like exhaust, intake, ect... correct, dealers make back their money by charging higher than the dealer price for tunes.
Vince charges for retunes, even if its just for an exhaust. He sends the cable and a PDA, you have unlimited tunes to get the tune perfect and dialed in by using the above method of logging, sending the log, uploading the new tune, etc. However, once you are satisfied with your tune, he will want the cable and PDA back... If you want a retune in the future, even a simple thing like exhaust, its another $75+shipping of the PDA/cable. If you want another complete tune in the future, then you pay full price again
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 11:17 PM
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you misunderstand what we're talking about, we are talking about if they buy the cable, not rent the PDA, two different things.
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 11:59 PM
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damn tuning costs more than the mods half the time haha....
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