that's why I encourage going through a dealer. I charge $300 for a cobalt, as opposed to the $465, you still get free retunes if your local, or the cost of gas if you're not, I keep your stock tune if you need to go back to stock, ect... all the benefits of having the cable without the extra $165

 

im confuzzled, elaborate

 

you can rent a PDA tuner from trifecta for $350 for the initial tune, buy a cable and a tune for $465 for the initial tune and all following retunes unless a major retune is required. If you rent the PDA, you have to pay $65 for each retune regardless of what the retune is, but more for a major retune. If you go through a dealer you pay whatever that dealer charges, in my case I charge $300 for a cobalt/ion, different amounts for different cars, and retunes are free if you are local or drive to me, or my gas required to get to you for a minor retune. Major retunes always need to pay again, rates depend, major means forced induction or similar mods that require completely redoing the fuel/air table.

 

Not true i use Trifecta and i change my tune when ever i feel like it.

 

So would stage 2 cams be just a change it the tune, or a full on retune?

 

should be minor, only timing and minor fuel table changes should be needed, but next time I talk to him I'll ask.

 

Cams is a major tune.

a minor tune is. more timing adjusting AFR's redline, speedo, etc, any engine work, F/I.... this is considered a major tune.

 

Alright thanks man! I'll wait till I'm done with everything for a tune then