has anyone built there NA ecotecs to 200 horsepower? without forced induction XD

 

this has been asked a lot
I don't think anyone has
maybe with a shot of nos

 

That is my goal...so I'll see once I'm all done and dyno'd

 

a 2.4 did lik 201/177 or sumtin NA..not sure bout 2.2

 

Noorjariri did it with a 2.4 and he basically just had bolt ons and a tune. The highest hp 2.2 NA is like 160 something and that's going all out with cams, bolt ons, tune, etc.

 

yea on a really high reading dyno

 

It's 155 in stock form, so I would think just a 5 hp gain after doing all that is crazy talk. No offense meant.

 

Even if we're talking whp, I would think you would end up with more than 160 after cams, exhaust, bolt-ons, and a tune.

 

155 hp in stock form is at the crank. 160 hp is at the wheels.
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/dyno...2012-a-272372/

 

Read the dyno thread a post above this. Most stock 2.2's are lucky to make 125 at the wheels so 160 is a quite a bit higher than stock. Still sad gains for all the money spent on that setup though

 

WELL THEN... haha..

 

don't these have 170 hp stock? not to the wheels but come on... are there no internal upgrade that can be done? such as high performance cams heads pistons?

 

damn... coppyd from the dyno thread



2.4L - Naturally Aspirated
1. noorjariri, 201whp 188wtq, Verified Mustang Dyno, I,F,H,DP,E,T,TB Graph1,Graph2
2. newt 193whp 179wtq,Verified Dynojet, I,F,H,T,42s,TB,PH,C,CO Graph
3. Hotpursuit 170whp, 174wtq Verified Dynojet, I,Fr,H,DP,E,T,DR,CD,CO Graph
4. steddy2112 167 whp, 166 wtq Verified I, E Graph


2.4L - Anything Goes!!
Forced Induction, Nitrous, MAKE POWER
1. Mobile Chassis Dyno 406whp, 463wtq, Dynojet Dyno ZZPtk/E85/Stock Motor! Graph
2. glen229 303whp,321wtq Verified Dynojet (50trim 10psi)TK/60s/T Graph
3. Cherry_GT 271whp/275wtq Verified TK(s256et 10psi)/DP/E/CD/I/CP/IC/T Graph
4. elecblue06 260whp, 361wtq Verified Dynojet, 60lb/k04/dp/FMIC/tune/15psi Graph
5. hhrfreek 257whp, 233wtq Verified Dyno, I,F,GMH,DP,E,T,60s,3.1,M62,PB,CD,HE,TB,C, Graph Graph
6. elecblue06 251whp, 208wtq Verified WinDyn H, DP, E, T, PCK, 3.2, 60s, m62 Graph
7. Zdeuce4 247whp, 267wtq Verified Mustang Dyno (50trim 12psi)TK/E/T/60s Graph


2.2L - Naturally Aspirated
1. NWAE_Cobalt, 180whp, 164wtq Verified DynoJet I, IM, TB, PH, 42s, C, H, DP, CD, E, P, T Graph
2. Copson20, 163.15WHP, 150.20WTQ Verified DynoJet I, IM, H, DP, E, T, TB, C, Graph
3. NWAE Cobalt, 154 whp, 157 wtq Verified I, E, T, DP, H Graph
4. Brags 143whp, 131wtq Mustang Dyno I, H, E, DP, IM,T Graph
5. UNIJABNX2000, 142whp. 141wtq Verified Dynojet STOCK Graph
6. springerdesigner, 138whp, 136wtq Verified Dynojet I/H/DP/E/T Graph
7. montecarloman, 138whp, 133wtq Verified Dynojet, I, TB, IM, E, T Graph
8. huckernage, 127whp, 127wtq Verified Mustang Dyno, I/H/DP/E Graph
9. MP81, 124whp, 134wtq, Verified Dynopack, STOCK, Graph
10. 007CobaltLS, 112whp, 110wtq, Verified Dyno Dynamics, STOCK Graph


2.2L - Anything Goes!!
Supercharged, turbo, nitrous, anything goes!
1. lwpmoon, 539whp, 526wtq, Verified Dynojet, H,DP,E,T,80s,TK,TB,IM,C,IC,FI,E-85, Graph
2. conerboner, 355whp, 342wtq, Verfied Dynojet, i,e,h,t,tb,cd,he,ic,im,cp,fi,zzptk,fs(brfps),80s,e-85 bullseye s256 @ 13 psi, Graph
3. Brags 319whp, 274wtq, Verfied Mustang, I,H,E,T,TK,DP,CD,TB,PH,IM,SM,IC,CP,FI,FS Werks 5557 14psi Graph
4. killswitch1209 291whp, Verified Dynojet, IC/IM/DP/CD/FM/CP/40s/TK/T/I/10psi, Graph
5. GSDIESEL300, 266.7whp, 214.8wtq, Verified Dynojet, (LAP Auto), M62/PB/2.9/60s/HE/DU/I/F/TB/IM/T, Graph
6. Leafydialupking 226whp, 213wtq Verified Dynojet, F/H/E/T/DU/60s/RS/2.8/HE/M62, Graph
7. springerdesigner 225whp, 200wtq (Auto) Verified Dynojet M62/3.08/60s/HE/CM/DP/H/E Graph
8. stenguyen1, 223.9whp, 225.4wtq, Graph
9. MP81, 219whp, 208wtq, Verified Dynojet, (Auto) E,T,42s,2.9,HE,TB,M62,AM, Graph
10. drumrush, 213whp, 199wtq, Verified Dynojet, m62/3.0/I/h/dp/e/he/60's, Graph


Legend:
I = Intake
F = Filter
H = Header or Aftermarket/other than stock Turbo Manifold
GMH = GMPP Extrude Honed Manifold
GMHP = Ported GMPP Extrude Honed Manifold
DP = Aftermarket Down pipe
E = Cat-back exhaust
T = Tuning
P = Underdrive Pulley
DR = Drag Radials or Slicks
DU = Dual Pass
98s = 98# injectors
80s = 80# injectors
79s = 79# injectors
60s = 60# injectors
50s = 50# injectors
42s = 42# injectors
RS = Return style fuel system
N2O = Nitrous
TK = Turbo Kit
TS = Twin Screw supercharger
0.0 = Will specify pulley size for the SS/SC's
WI = Water/Meth Injection
PB = Ported Blower
GM1 = GM Stage 1
GM2 = GM Stage 2
GM3 = GM Stage 3
CD = Cat Delete
HE = Aftermarket or 2nd Heat Exchanger
TB = Ported or aftermarket throttle body
PH = Ported, aftermarket head/headwork
IM = Ported,aftermarket, or better than stock intake manifold
C = Cams
M62 = Stock Supercharger off a Cobalt SS/SC
I-STGx = Intense Stages
TWNCHRG = Twin Charged (turbo and supercharger)
RG = Race or above 93 octane gas
AM = Airbox mod
TVS = TVS supercharger
IC = Intercooler
CP = Chargepipes
FI = Forged Internals
ZZPtck = ZZP turbo conversion kit
ZZPtk= ZZP turbo kit
CO = Exhaust cut out
PCK = Procharger Supercharger kit
MD = Muffler Delete
K04 = K04 turbo
PI = Pistons
E-85 = Ethanol Fuel
FS = Fuel System upgrade
STR = Stroker (anything with a longer stroke than stock)
OB = Overbore
GM1S = GM Stage 1 Sensors (SS/TC)[/QUOTE]

 

the 2.2s only have 155 crank hp. seen them dyno anywhere from 110-125whp stock
the 2.4s have 171 crank hp. dyno around 140-155whp stock

 

But the chart doesn't stipulate if these 2.2s are the 155 LAP or the 143 L61 that I could see.
I promise that I'm not trying to be confrontational and not even sure why I'm replying since I plan on supercharging my 2.2 LAP HHR Panel. Don't even own a Cobalt. Y'all ain't gonna run me off are ya. LOL

 

A 2.4 can go over 200 to the wheels easy with the ZZP Cams.

Im not sure how far you could push the 2.2 but let me do a little research

 

so the 2.2 LAP is 10:1 CR
2.4 LE5 is 10.4:1 CR

after looking around, your head is the same, cams a re smaller and less displacement, but you cam phasers are the same.

IMO swap a 2.4 in your car, do all the bolt ons, and some cams. tune and you will deff be over 200 WHP. you can find 06-07 LE5s for $400 or so in a Junk Yard, and those years used a forged crank and rods.

 

Is the 2.4 gunna be something that is just going to go in? If you gotta modify that's not worth it for 200 horses

 

I'd love to see 200 outta my LAP

 

Im dropping a 2.4 lsj in my 07 ss Sc..the main different from what I understand is the heads all the blocks r similar.. someone correct me if Im wrong...i ment similar!!!.
the bolt pattern on the back for the trans is the same and the bolt layout for the head...
cuz Im using my lsj head on a Le5 block.

 

If the 2.4 adn LAP use the same mounts then yes. adn from what i see they do. should be a bolt in. you may need the PCM from the donor car, im not sure. but all you harnesses and sensors may just simply swap over to the LE5 as they both use VVT. and like i said the cam phasers use the same P/N

 

Can someone confirm the 2.2 and 2.4 have similar mounts? Might think about building a 2.4 motor if so

 

ask zzp if there mounts work with ur 2.2 if they say yes get a Le5 pull ur head off u 2.2 and put it on the 2.4 block and drop that thing in in the car..the only thing is that i would find out if the 2.2 and 2.4 use the same flywheel. that might be ur only problem.

 

I'm automatic

 

Wow this is interesting so can i use a lnf head on a 2.4? Just wondering lol