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Old 07-06-2011, 05:16 PM
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2.0 supercharger on 2.4?

I tossed the turbo idea for my cobalt and thought that it was too much of a risk and an expense. So I was wondering, could the 2.0ss/sc supercharger fit onto the 2.4l? Because I've seen it done, but I'm not sure what else might be needed
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Heck yes it fits, you're in for a treat.

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/how-...through-80620/
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Holy hell
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I'm having a hard time figuring out what makes a turbo a big risk, but not a supercharger? I understand the expense part, and absolutely a supercharger is a more budget friendly choice.
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It's just that more people blow up turbos and burn up the motors. And idk. Just easier to install and with the high miles, I'd rather have an engine that I dont have to take apart so that I can add a turbo
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Originally Posted by '06cobaltss
It's just that more people blow up turbos and burn up the motors. And idk. Just easier to install and with the high miles, I'd rather have an engine that I dont have to take apart so that I can add a turbo
Blowing the motor is still a concern with a supercharger, I can remember several threads people posted about it. The supercharger is a little milder than a big boost turbo, you're still going to have to keep a close eye on things to make sure you don't make the motor go boom. High miles is always a crap shoot as to how stout the engine is going to be when you add boost.
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Originally Posted by alleycat58
Blowing the motor is still a concern with a supercharger, I can remember several threads people posted about it. The supercharger is a little milder than a big boost turbo, you're still going to have to keep a close eye on things to make sure you don't make the motor go boom. High miles is always a crap shoot as to how stout the engine is going to be when you add boost.
Exactly. I know that the supercharger is a more gradual and milder option. I don't want my engine to get to a certain RPM then be blasted with power, I'd rather it be gradual
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I think that people assume turbos are unsafe because many people doitwronglikethis. There is not really any choices to make with a supercharger kit other than a pulley. Most people don't go very low on 2.2s.

Even though this is a bunch of 2.2L cobalts, pretty much everything will be the same for you:
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l...thread-208355/

I collected a lot of build threads that should pretty much answer all of your questions.
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about how much will the parts cost. the labor cost? can it be driven somewhere to be tuned or need to be tuned before the engine is turned on?
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You most certainly cannot drive on the stock tune having added a supercharger. You WILL blow something up, if the engine even starts.

Parts can run as little as... $1,800 if you know where to find them. That's just a ballpark figure. Installing a supercharger should be something you and a friend can do in a weekend if you've done plenty of research, save you a **** ton on labor costs.
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Originally Posted by blacksssedan
about how much will the parts cost. the labor cost? can it be driven somewhere to be tuned or need to be tuned before the engine is turned on?
That depends on a lot of variables. You will see some people saying 1000, you will see some people saying 3000. You can buy 100% of the parts used, or you can try to find new / lightly used parts. Most people do not just buy the pieces needed to bolt on the supercharger, many people buy multiple gauges as well as exhaust upgrades. If you buy gauges new and pods, you could easily spend a few hundred right there, exhaust will be a few hundred as well.

I think there's a way to drive the car with the blower installed but you need to rig it up basically so there's no boost. I would count this as a "no option" option. Where the car sits when the kit goes on is where the car should be tuned. You can order remote tuning from some people/companies or you can hire someone to come to you. You will never get a better tune than when an experienced tuner is sitting in your car.

^Do NOT plan on the install being one day or even two. If you don't know whats needed for the install, you better plan on taking your time and/or finding some buddies, especially if this is your DD. Keep in mind that once you do this, you will eventually run into some kind of issue that causes down time. How long can ya live without this car?
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Originally Posted by Acey
You most certainly cannot drive on the stock tune having added a supercharger. You WILL blow something up, if the engine even starts.

Parts can run as little as... $1,800 if you know where to find them. That's just a ballpark figure. Installing a supercharger should be something you and a friend can do in a weekend if you've done plenty of research, save you a **** ton on labor costs.

I just supercharged my 2.2

the engine will start and run rich. and you should not get any CEL's ( i didnt)

i was able to drive it in and out of my garage to my driveway no issues (afr's running around 14's on idle and base driving in and out of my garage with no tune)

now im not suggestings pulling out of your driveway and driving around the block, but your safe enough to pull in and out of your garage.


My build for a 2.2 including gauges and a tune ran me $2700 cdn. that includes all shipping and border fees. I also opted to purchase a griffin heat exchanger, option b and dual pass upfront to complete all my cooling mods ahead of time and not was extra cash slowly upgrading after.

i installed my the stock ss/sc air box and griffin heat exchanger the weekend before my swap so it cut down on the main install time.

the day of the install it took about 6hrs for me and my buddy to complete the complete swap. plus tuning the next day

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The ZZP kit comes with a replacement ECU. Does that make any difference at all?
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Also I've seen that I can get full engines and trannys for less than $2,000. How much longer would it take to just swap engines?
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I've got a supercharger and stock SS/SC intake I could sell you. If you are interested PM me.
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Originally Posted by '06cobaltss
The ZZP kit comes with a replacement ECU. Does that make any difference at all?
not much, it would be like 50-50 because some ppl get the right tune.
i didnt, i sent it back and request the file thru email and someone touch up the tune
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Originally Posted by '06cobaltss
Also I've seen that I can get full engines and trannys for less than $2,000. How much longer would it take to just swap engines?
to swap engines that $2000 will turn into like $5000 by the time your finished

-not included are the following usually

heat exchanger
most of your hoses
transmission (your stock one wont work)
clutch
flywheel
axles (your stock ones wont work)
wheel hubs (stock ones wont work)
new ecm (computer)
engine bay wiring harness (your stock one wont work)
extra sensors if they have been removed from engine
new motor/transmission mounts (stock ones wont work)
programming your ecm to work with your exisiting bcm and airbag computers

and they list goes on, not worth it if you ask me
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