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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 11:56 AM
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2.4 Short Throw

Are there any short throw shifters available for the 2.4 SS? I found some on TTR website but says those are for the 2.0 only in the description

Also, if anyone else has one installed on their LS or 2.4, how much of a difference did you notice, worth the money I hope?
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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 12:13 PM
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TWM Makes on that will fit, and a couple of guys have them on here.
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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 12:59 PM
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I got a TWM Peformance on mine. This was my first short shifter experience and the notice was totally different. IMO it's worth it.


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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 05:18 PM
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How was the install? Only thing I am worried about is the cutting part that I read in the direcrions,
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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 06:08 PM
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imho short throws put way to much stress on the syncros..
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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by articzap
imho short throws put way to much stress on the syncros..
that's the truth....
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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by articzap
imho short throws put way to much stress on the syncros..
What are the syncros and how do short throws affect them?
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 04:38 PM
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syncros get the dog gear(am i right?) spinning up to speed before engaging them so you dont grind the gears. when you use the short throw your sometimes upto doubling the amount of force that the syncro hits the gear with causeing it to wear quicker and eventually haveing to replace your transmission sooner.
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by WSFrazier
How was the install? Only thing I am worried about is the cutting part that I read in the direcrions,
Install went well. It took me about 2 hours just like it said on the instructions. This was my first time messing around with a shifter since this is the first manual trans car I've had. If you just follow the directions step-by-step without rushing, you'll be fine.
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 11:17 PM
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Also, does the armrest get in the way when down? It gets in my way as it is now when going down into 2 or 4. Would seem a shorter shifter wouldnt help.
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 07:14 PM
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Install went well. It took me about 2 hours just like it said on the instructions. This was my first time messing around with a shifter since this is the first manual trans car I've had. If you just follow the directions step-by-step without rushing, you'll be fine.

Hey def dog how does ure corsa sport exhaust sound?
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 07:28 PM
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Hey def dog how does ure corsa sport exhaust sound?
I f'n love it. Especially when you start the car up, i love that. I was orginally gonna go with the tourning but i decided that I want my car to be loud and obnoxious, unlike me, and i don't regret it.
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 09:58 PM
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corsa sport exhaust

Originally Posted by Deaf_Dog
I f'n love it. Especially when you start the car up, i love that. I was orginally gonna go with the tourning but i decided that I want my car to be loud and obnoxious, unlike me, and i don't regret it.
Deaf dog could u do me a favor and record what ure exhaust sounds like and put it on here for me to hear..im thinking about the same exhaust but im not sure??
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 12:14 AM
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Deaf Dog where did you get the short throw for the 2.4L SS? I looked on the TWM site but it says its for the non ss, non reverse lock.
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 01:13 AM
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Deaf Dog where did you get the short throw for the 2.4L SS? I looked on the TWM site but it says its for the non ss, non reverse lock.
it should say it's for the non SS/SC. It works on the SS N/A. The regular SS shares the same tranny with the 2.2 Cobalts.
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by articzap
imho short throws put way to much stress on the syncros..
that's more an issue if you're ram shifting every gear. if you granny shift like me, it's no more or less stessful than a normal shifter.

the biggest thing is that people have this idea that a short throw will be the miracle that changes everything about how fast the car is. while a nice shifter may help in that it will make it feel nice, the days of a good shifter changing everything are long gone. think about it, if a shorter rod made THAT much of a diff, why wouldn't all cars just have them?
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by joeworkstoohard
the biggest thing is that people have this idea that a short throw will be the miracle that changes everything about how fast the car is. while a nice shifter may help in that it will make it feel nice, the days of a good shifter changing everything are long gone. think about it, if a shorter rod made THAT much of a diff, why wouldn't all cars just have them?
Its not just a shorter rod you get when buying a short shifter. Hell if thats all it was i'd take a hack saw to the stocker and be done. I'm not exactly an expert on shifter assembles so someone else can sure go into more detail that knows what they are talking about. But the bushings that come with the kit help alot too. And if you can shift faster you will definatly shave times of your 1/4. Imagine if you had to move the shifter about half as far (not quite what the difference is with the TWM, i think its a 40% reduced throw) that saves a lot of time. Anyways i'll let you guys know for sure how much it helps tommorow since i'm going to the track and only difference between the last time i went is my TWM shifter.
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 10:43 AM
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Its not just a shorter rod you get when buying a short shifter. Hell if thats all it was i'd take a hack saw to the stocker and be done. I'm not exactly an expert on shifter assembles so someone else can sure go into more detail that knows what they are talking about. But the bushings that come with the kit help alot too. And if you can shift faster you will definatly shave times of your 1/4. Imagine if you had to move the shifter about half as far (not quite what the difference is with the TWM, i think its a 40% reduced throw) that saves a lot of time. Anyways i'll let you guys know for sure how much it helps tommorow since i'm going to the track and only difference between the last time i went is my TWM shifter.
i doubt a short throw will help that much...i dont think the stock shifter is that far of a throw to begin with..
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 12:21 PM
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TWM-C...spagenameZWDVW

Scroll down do where it says "what is a short shifter". And right up above that is wher it states 38% throw reduction. And trust me you can feel the difference when you put the TWM shifter in.
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 05:25 PM
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I ordered my Shifter from them earlier, the only thing that sucks is that they are in quebec and im all the way down here in fl. Its gonna take an while.
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 05:39 PM
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i've rowed through the gears in one on a cobalt before and you can definitely feel the difference. it felt like the shifts were cut in half compared to my stock shifter. going from 1-2 was like going from 1-neutral on the stock shifter.

i don't believe in a short shifter having any ill effects on your syncros either...i think the deciding factor is the coordination between your foot on the clutch and your hand on the shifter.
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by IonNinja
i've rowed through the gears in one on a cobalt before and you can definitely feel the difference. it felt like the shifts were cut in half compared to my stock shifter. going from 1-2 was like going from 1-neutral on the stock shifter.

i don't believe in a short shifter having any ill effects on your syncros either...i think the deciding factor is the coordination between your foot on the clutch and your hand on the shifter.

that's def more true if it's a GOOD shifter. this is one of those "you what you pay for" deals. most of the abnormal wear just happens to be on cars that are driven harder. i drive like an old lady 95% of the time. every once in a while i open it up getting onto an on ramp just to make sure that i still can.
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 05:54 PM
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i got three day shipping form them for only $10 more
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 06:11 PM
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i got three day shipping form them for only $10 more
Dammit, i wish i would have done that, oh well to late now
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 09:19 PM
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even so shifts are pretty quick now...i dont know if you all hav noticed...i found this is true on 1st- 2nd and 3rd to 4th....but the clutch doesnt have to be all the way down and if your good enough with timing you can catch the next gear faster without having the clutch all the way down and just barely sliding into the next gear before you let....it sounds stupid but trust me it works and no it isnt doing damage becuz if it was id hear it grinding
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