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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 04:10 PM
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You could have taken him, its a focus. There was one in my nieghborhood, he put an exhaust on it, it sounded like a honda, only thing it went about 40 miles slower. It was real cute. Needless to say the kid drives some element now, since that beat him.
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Sodex
You could have taken him, its a focus. There was one in my nieghborhood, he put an exhaust on it, it sounded like a honda, only thing it went about 40 miles slower. It was real cute. Needless to say the kid drives some element now, since that beat him.
too bad you live in Utah, b/c i'd LOVE to see you race my friend Michael's '07 Focus. It has basic bolt ons and an SCT tune, but man that car responds well to modifications. Not one single CEL even before the tune. I guarantee it'd beat you, and it'd likely beat me as my car stands right now un-tuned.

I'm not trying to flame, im just saying, don't hate appreciate.......especially a car that can potentially be faster than you.
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 12:20 AM
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Every car can be potentially faster, I put on three turbo's Id win simple.
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Sodex
Every car can be potentially faster, I put on three turbo's Id win simple.
no you wouldnt if you would put on 1 turbo on a 4 banger thats puttin down 100 whp and you added 2 more turbos you wouldnt gain anything. just free up somemore exhuast you may gain alittle but not much/

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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 01:14 AM
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One of my best friends has a 2.3 Focus and we race all the time i can usually get a jump on him from a 40mph roll. But its funny because on the focus fanatics forum they think the 2.3 focus is god.


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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 01:16 AM
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[QUOTE=Red06LS;1169788]One of my best friends has a 2.3 Focus and we race all the time i can usually get a jump on him from a 40mph roll. But its funny because on the focus fanatics forum they think the 2.3 focus is god.

lol cobalts are better.

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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by rlinden86
no you wouldnt if you would put on 1 turbo on a 4 banger thats puttin down 100 whp and you added 2 more turbos you wouldnt gain anything. just free up somemore exhuast you may gain alittle but not much/

ryan.

I'm sure that was a joke howdy. What do Foci run stock anyways (2.3)? high 15's??
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 07:03 AM
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There's a guy out my way that has an M62 Eaton on his Focus and he runs mid to low 14's all day long. It's stealthy, pretty quiet exhaust, and clean. I like to give credit where credit is due. Not much of a Ford fan, so I would never own one, but not too bad.
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 11:27 AM
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the st (2.3) can run about 15.6 on a good day

the pzev or whatever duratec 2.3 i think is pretty slow, maybe like 16ish
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 11:39 AM
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the duratec engine doesnt like boost.... you cant get over 8 psi on stock internals or you will bend the rods.
I don't think that is in any way accurate.

http://www.focussport.com/turbocharger.htm

I also ran up against a few Focus guys around here. One had a semi built Duratec 2.3 with the Cosworth bolt on stage package and he had me by about 1-2 car lengths at 4th gear. Granted he had I/H/E and ECU tuning and I was just ECM and Intake but don;t sell the 2.3 as slow in a 3 door hatch.

His buddy was running the FOCUSSPORT stage 2 "INTERCOOLED" turbo which was running about 12psi. He laid down 252whp and the same torque. The SVTs with the XIOS turbo are about 290whp. Ask me how I know-they all DUSTED me.
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 01:58 PM
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i said duratec. not zetec. duratec can go to 12 but its unsafe. turbo tom (like an idle to focus people) cant produce a duratec to carry power. every time he cranks it up it ***** up. focus sports tunning sucks ass so most people dont use there tune anyways. i heared the hiboost kit for the duratec that just came out was suppost to be a hit but i havent payed attention to it.

cosworth kits are to damn expensive. stage one is about 1000 dollars and it only increases 25 hp? and then you have to spend another thousand to get stage 2 and thats when you see 200 bhp. duratec will never be as good as the zetec
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by madmark
i said duratec. not zetec. duratec can go to 12 but its unsafe. turbo tom (like an idle to focus people) cant produce a duratec to carry power. every time he cranks it up it ***** up. focus sports tunning sucks ass so most people dont use there tune anyways. i heared the hiboost kit for the duratec that just came out was suppost to be a hit but i havent payed attention to it.

cosworth kits are to damn expensive. stage one is about 1000 dollars and it only increases 25 hp? and then you have to spend another thousand to get stage 2 and thats when you see 200 bhp. duratec will never be as good as the zetec

As the link shows, and all the Focuses I ran, were duratecs and they kicked my butt. I don't lose many races period (check my posts) but I say they are fast. BTW the turbo DURATEC had been boosted he said for almost 10K miles.
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 02:36 PM
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his automatic zx5?
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 02:41 PM
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his automatic zx5?
Nah, both were 2.3 5 speeds ZX3s. One was an 03 don't know about the other.
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 05:36 PM
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What road did this happen on and at what time of the day.
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 10:56 PM
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lol, just face it people. Foci, especially Duratec equipped models (05+) can make for good contenders to our cars. Just acccccept it! lol
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by madmark
the st (2.3) can run about 15.6 on a good day

the pzev or whatever duratec 2.3 i think is pretty slow, maybe like 16ish
Actually its more like 15.7's stock. Thats with a good driver and on a good track. Most people get very high 15's, low 16's.
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 02:59 AM
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or maybe...he thought you were a base model......

or maybe...he knew youd back down because you had the woman with ya....

or maybe...he was drunk..or high...or both.

or maybe...im tired and im off to bed...

and yes, you shouldve taken him...even if he had mods.... (youd lose if he had a turbo)...

but you should be able to take him stock, if he had a few mods...
LOL

haha some SVT tried racing me.. he didnt stand a chance it all, once i hit it.. he couldnt keep up at all i was gaining car lengths pretty easily.
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 08:13 AM
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People......you gotta realize that there's other racing besides going fast in a straight line. Ok, so our cars are likely faster in a straight line. Big whoop. A well set up Focus will own us in an autocross event. My friend I mentioned earlier w/ the '07 Focus has one of the best handling cars I've ever ridden in. Its got sportlines, focus central front strut bar, focus sport rear strut bar, gutted rear/removed back seat, no carpet, Corbeau Forzas w/ Corbeau 4-pt harnesses, 4-point bolt in harness bar, 18x7.5 ICW Mach 10's w/ Nankang NS-2 rubber.......and that thing is sick to ride in. He's gonna get some smaller/wider wheels and competition rubber soon and start doing some misc autocross events soon. And its also faster than me in a straight line. Its got an F2 long tube stepped header, Tru-Benz non-resonated/de-cat 2.5" cat-back, F2 CAI, SCT xcal2 flasher, and a Dynotune/ZEX dry kit running only a 25 shot. That thing is straight nasty.....trust me.
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Old Aug 4, 2007 | 11:57 AM
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http://research.cars.com/go/crp/rese...=&aff=national

http://research.cars.com/go/crp/rese...=&aff=national

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Old Aug 4, 2007 | 12:06 PM
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How does a 130 hp car all of a sudden become as fast as a 173 hp car?

173 > 130 last I checked.
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Old Aug 4, 2007 | 02:15 PM
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SVT focus comes with 170 hp and ST comes with 151
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Old Aug 4, 2007 | 03:15 PM
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SVT focus comes with 170 hp and ST comes with 151
I only saw the HP figures that were linked to thats why I posted my question. But yes if its the 170 SVT then it could be close.
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Old Aug 4, 2007 | 03:18 PM
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I actually raced an SVT Focus recently with all my current mods and the focus was stock. We went from a dig and I had him by about a car and a half at 100. It was very close till about 70
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Old Aug 4, 2007 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Jackalope
How does a 130 hp car all of a sudden become as fast as a 173 hp car?

173 > 130 last I checked.
weight differences on the cars in general, the fact that his car dosent have 19"s and mine does, he has a gutted interior and I have full leather, he's tuned w/ the SCT flasher, and my car isn't tuned and no 5 PCM codes thrown at the moment........shall I continue? lol

Ever seen Hasport's yellow CRX? It barely even hits the 300whp mark w/o spray........and it takes down 500hp+ AWD monsters in time attack events. Having a small car helps.......and a Focus is a small car. The Cobalt.......not so much. And like I said, he only beats me with the 25 shot.
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