The 2.4 Supercharged - 10,000mile review!
Yea 2.7 11-12 psi (depends on the day) and e-85.
Maybe my blower isn't as tight, or maybe the E-85 tune isn't right yet. All I know is we couldn't make it KR with 25° of timing and above that it lost power (see last pull).
I leaned it out until it stopped gaining, but I'm sure there are a few ponies hiding in the Ecm somewhere. I'm thinking 2.6 or maybe 2.5 pulley and/or a 50 shot later on.
BTW I only had two hours on the dyno with it so far
Jim
Besides...it's a wagon....
Maybe my blower isn't as tight, or maybe the E-85 tune isn't right yet. All I know is we couldn't make it KR with 25° of timing and above that it lost power (see last pull).
I leaned it out until it stopped gaining, but I'm sure there are a few ponies hiding in the Ecm somewhere. I'm thinking 2.6 or maybe 2.5 pulley and/or a 50 shot later on.
BTW I only had two hours on the dyno with it so far

Jim
Besides...it's a wagon....
I'm not going to get into details....
Jim
Yes, your can up your timing and boost on a high compression engine, but your simply making up the loss from the fuel. Your maybe gaining 5-8% more by running E85.
I just need to figure out if a 2.6 pulley will make enough boost difference or not.
Jim
That's my direction, E-85 is cheap $2.39 a gal and close to my home. Also since it runs cooler I expect cylinder temps to be less. Plus I hardly ever take this car out of town so finding e-85 isn't an issue.
I just need to figure out if a 2.6 pulley will make enough boost difference or not.
Jim
I just need to figure out if a 2.6 pulley will make enough boost difference or not.
Jim
For someone like myself it wouldn't be a good idea.
i think the gaskets used in flex fuel cars are what allows them to use e85 with reliability. good luck though, hopefully it works ok 4 U.
I got new numbers and the clutch was slipping when pushed in 4th so they aren't entirely accurate. Only gained 4hp and lost 3ft/lbs of tq. Meh, not concerned with the numbers right now...reliability was more important this time around.
We street tuned it for nearly perfect drivability and then some WOT runs on the dyno to smooth everything else out we haven't hit.
We street tuned it for nearly perfect drivability and then some WOT runs on the dyno to smooth everything else out we haven't hit.
I just switched from HPT to EFI Live for the HHR buildup. It will be a while before I dyno again, but so far the results look promising. I am finally able to run the car in speed density mode with the virtual VE tables, and EFI also allows VVT control.
Seat of the pants is a whole lot better now, I've not messed with VVT yet, once I get the tables squared away I'll see what the cams will do for it.
Jim
Seat of the pants is a whole lot better now, I've not messed with VVT yet, once I get the tables squared away I'll see what the cams will do for it.
Jim
My plan is to tune maf-less with Ve, then go back and re-tune the maf and see what the diff is.
The cam phasing looks promising though, I talked to a guy yesterday who tune 40 HP in a VVT engine, beit a larger one of course. I'd be happy seeing 5-10 HP with VVT.
The car is rediculously responcive in SD though compared to my previous setup.
I need to work on TCS and bump my rev limiter a tad since from a 30 mph roll it blows the tires off so hard it shuts down the ETC everytime now.
Jim
Did you mean Maf not Map? Kinda hard to fuel it with boost and no map isn't it?
Jim
The cam phasing looks promising though, I talked to a guy yesterday who tune 40 HP in a VVT engine, beit a larger one of course. I'd be happy seeing 5-10 HP with VVT.
The car is rediculously responcive in SD though compared to my previous setup.
I need to work on TCS and bump my rev limiter a tad since from a 30 mph roll it blows the tires off so hard it shuts down the ETC everytime now.
Jim
Jim
Last edited by Quasimotor; Jan 22, 2008 at 11:06 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
My plan is to tune maf-less with Ve, then go back and re-tune the maf and see what the diff is.
The cam phasing looks promising though, I talked to a guy yesterday who tune 40 HP in a VVT engine, beit a larger one of course. I'd be happy seeing 5-10 HP with VVT.
The car is rediculously responcive in SD though compared to my previous setup.
I need to work on TCS and bump my rev limiter a tad since from a 30 mph roll it blows the tires off so hard it shuts down the ETC everytime now.
Jim
Did you mean Maf not Map? Kinda hard to fuel it with boost and no map isn't it?
Jim
The cam phasing looks promising though, I talked to a guy yesterday who tune 40 HP in a VVT engine, beit a larger one of course. I'd be happy seeing 5-10 HP with VVT.
The car is rediculously responcive in SD though compared to my previous setup.
I need to work on TCS and bump my rev limiter a tad since from a 30 mph roll it blows the tires off so hard it shuts down the ETC everytime now.
Jim
Did you mean Maf not Map? Kinda hard to fuel it with boost and no map isn't it?
Jim
No, we had the car tuned using the MAF only (no MAP) at first. It actually worked okay for the time being, and was a temporary solution.
yea i sold my supercharger and other stuff i had cause i needed da extra money at the time..theres a guy selling an almost complete kit at a min. price of 1,200...i might do it but what else do i need...this is what he has
Eaton M62 Supercharger
• Supercharger Gasket
• Stock LSJ Intake Manifold
• Intake Manifold Bottom Mount
• Intake Manifold Gasket (Part #12597855)
• Bosch/LSJ Intercooler Pump
• Intercooler Pump Mounting Bracket (rebelautoworx.com)
• Extended Upper Radiator Hose
• Coolant Reservoir Tank (Cobalt or Ion Recommend)
• SS/SC intake
• 10ft. x ¾” I.D. Hose
• 10ft x ¼” I.D. Hose
• 4ft. x ½” I.D. Hose
• Small and Large Hose clamps.
• 3 x 1/8th NPT ¼” Barb Fittings
I still have the stock pulley injectors and i still have the map sensor
Eaton M62 Supercharger
• Supercharger Gasket
• Stock LSJ Intake Manifold
• Intake Manifold Bottom Mount
• Intake Manifold Gasket (Part #12597855)
• Bosch/LSJ Intercooler Pump
• Intercooler Pump Mounting Bracket (rebelautoworx.com)
• Extended Upper Radiator Hose
• Coolant Reservoir Tank (Cobalt or Ion Recommend)
• SS/SC intake
• 10ft. x ¾” I.D. Hose
• 10ft x ¼” I.D. Hose
• 4ft. x ½” I.D. Hose
• Small and Large Hose clamps.
• 3 x 1/8th NPT ¼” Barb Fittings
I still have the stock pulley injectors and i still have the map sensor
I got the zzp midlength/dp combo with the 1.75" primaries high flow cat, 2.5" out bolts right up to the stock exhaust. I put it on around christmas time, and it started to leak all of a sudden and it threw a cat inefficiency code. So I tightened up all the bolts on the header (some were kinda loose, needed another half turn) , thebolts on the header to dp were all very loose, and the connection where it meets the exhaust was also fairly loose. I cleared the CEL and it hasn't come back yet. No more raspy sounding exhaust, or lack of torque. Runs smoother too.


