Coors

5 Speed 2.4L. 1st gear is great, got that usual torque feel. 2nd gear feels like I can rev up the RPM's and she doesn't pull as fast. 3rd gear around 3500 and she pulls like a freight train. 4th is around the same as 3rd and so is 5th.

Anyone else notice that second gear is a bit of a pig as well?

rlinden86

yeah just alittle like you start from a stop and rev it high and go in 1st till it gets around 6000rpm and shift to 2nd then it pulls less than first but its suppossed to its a higher gear. but theres just a huge drop off in power. like it bogs down and has to catch up from about 2000 2nd runs good at then till about 3000 the vvt kicks in or something and really starts to go great. then 3rd and 4th is good i can run 4th all the way to about 115 and then 5th just kinda lugs around 115 to 130 slowly.

ryan.

elecblue06

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granted i have a 2.4 ion but my car pulls great in first until like 6.2K or so and 2-4th pull hard after 3.5K .. Maybe you're not shifting well enough into second'? I don't mean to bash you driving skills but it just seems odd.. and 5 shouldn't be pulling that hard it's just meant for cruising

rlinden86

no 5th doesnt do hardly anything. but 3rd and 4th are ok. but i shift 2nd pretty good.

ryan.

Brenn8402

I read the title saying second gear blues, and i thought maybe you broke it...cuz i think i broke a synchro, when i drive hard it grinds going into gear

rlinden86

push the clutch in more than and dont speed shift lol...
ryan.

Brandon97Z

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^^You prolly broke the tips off the shift forks. Which i do believe in turn screws up the syncro. The ecotec j-bodies have the same F23 trans and it happens alot to them. There is a rumor they have bronze shift forks to replace the nylon ones but I haven't conformed that. I'll know more next week when mine goes in for this. Soon yours won't even stay in 2nd and just pop into neutral when you let of the clutch.

back on topic-my second pulls really hard (when i still had 2nd). Then again i had a I/E/H/T and a 7000 rpm redline so it doesn't drop as low during shifts.

JakeU

I found 2nd gear to be quite a monster, I mean, its good for up to 96 km/h and it pulls really hard.

1st gear suck though, too short.

NiShiftSS

i found that it wont bog in second if you ride the clutch a bit= not good for clutch but good for racing

i used to just dump it into second and thats how i lost every race......

ive heard that the 2.2 has better acceleration but the 2.4l have better high end because of the vvt........i found this out personally by racing a 2.2 2003 cavi.......i pulled on him at the top end of 2nd and the low end of 3rd

rlinden86

yes the 2.4 has kinda bad low end but good high end.

ryan.

Brandon97Z

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Get a tune and it really wakes up the low-mid range on the 2.4.

rlinden86

yeah tune is coming next weekend after injector swap and full exhaust install on monday.

ryan.

Coors

Where I live NOBODY has HPTuners
Not yet ready to fork over $500 for it either ...

rlinden86

yeah i got a guy thats going to be doin the hptuners for me for about 150 i think. didnt see were you lived at you must live in the middle of nowere.

ryan. peace out