77speedracer

I am looking at buying a 2.4 SS with 107,000km for $3500. besides the engine what are the differences between the 2.4SS and the supercharged 2.0 SS?

I can see it has 4 wheel disc and SS rims, but the interior is the same as a non SS car. not sure if thats a trim level thing or if only SC cars had the SS interior. also wondering about suspension etc.

any help would be appreciated.

Spawne32

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SS/SC's usually have either A) the multi color interior B) stitched SS logo on the seats, different ground effects compared to the NA, 18" wheels with 225 wide tires, probably about a 1/4 inch lower springs from the factory and the FE5 shocks/struts with the slightly stiffer springs compared to the FE3 sport tuned suspension on the SS/NA.

I don't believe heated seats were offered with the SS/SC either, but you can find that option in the SS/NA models. Also SS/SC did not have an option for automatics.

06cobaltncng

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lsd trans also. on g85 model lsjs.

iToastie

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Supercharger

riceburner

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Also different shifter, gauge cluster, boost gauge, all black interior, stereo may be further upgraded, the list goes on and on

andrewcarr1993

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The 2.4 LE5 is just a slightly more powerful 2.2 LAP. Although the LAP was derived from the LE5.

The LSJ on the other hand is way better for making power.

Mr Mall Cop

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The SS/SC has more horseies under the hood

StevoElSupremo

I owned an SS N/A and my bro has an S/C now...

-Brakes A.F.A.I.K are the same
-N/A has Fe3 suspension, S/C has Fe5
-N/A has obviously less HP
-both N/A and S/C can have heated leather seats
-S/C has SS stitched in the seats, but the seats are the same feeling
-Sound systems are identical
-S/C has different gauges/shifter/has a pillar boost gauge
-N/A has the same trans as the LS/LT.
-N/A is missing the lip kit
-S/C has 18" rims, N/A has 17"

Thats about all I can think of...

chris88z24

Engine
Transmission
Suspension
Wheels
Tires
Gauges
Front bumper
Rear bumper
SS S/C has an oil cooler and charge air cooler
Catback should be the same

Spawne32

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slightly more powerful? that's subjective, id rather have a 88x98 vvt motor over a LSJ any day of the week. Also the pioneer sound systems are the same on both the SS/NA and the SS/SC.

andrewcarr1993

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I said it's a more powerful LAP which is a 09-10 2.2, both same head but lower compression on the LAP and obviously less displacement. How mine is at the moment is a little faster than a stock 2.4.

noorj

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andrew i'm stock! lets race

Spawne32

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stock, in quotes " "

Verbatim

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PCMs different; SSNA is better
Endlinks are different
rear swaybar MAY be different, havent bothered to check up on it, just what ive heard


How have you come to that conclusion?

andrewcarr1993

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Built for forced induction with lower compression and stronger stock vs stock. When talking about a built motor all things go out the window.

Noorj, should I start calling you miller? You're right about his definition of stock, only exception is the turbo...

Verbatim

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lol; stock for stock...

I got a P&P head, head studs, 80s, meth, and 2.6 TVS and I daily it...

I do a compression and leakdown test every 3000miles, and I have no issues


The LE5 is a fantastic and severely underrated engine; just because it has higher compression doesn't necessarily mean that if boosted, its weak...It's all in the tune

andrewcarr1993

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I was just stating that the LSJ is an easier starting platform for big power. Not that the 2.4 is a bad one. Heck Noorj is going for the 2.4 stock block record trying to hit 406 WHP. I could be on the 2.4 at some point since I know they are good engines and it could be a cheaper alternative to having a much stronger engine once turbo'd. Just have to get an 06 LE5 and I'd be able to up the boost lots more than a stock 2.2 could ever handle.

Spawne32

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Dont understand the aversion to compression on this board. lol Coming from the builds im used to in the honda world with the K and B series motors, you guys are laughable running 9.5:1 compression on a supercharged motor.

77speedracer

thanks for all the info guys. is $3500 a good price for an N/A car with 107,000 km on it? got some minor dents in it. interior is in good shape but its the same one as my LT. manual transmission.

Verbatim

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Well in proper numbers, thats like 65-66K MILES
If you can, take someone with you that knows about bodywork and have them see how bad it is

All depends on how hard it has been beat on and how it was taken care of, When I pulled my valve cover for the first time at like 60K miles, it looked brand new...But I have pulled valve covers on 08 balts with like 15K miles at work and they looked like a 300Kmile engine filled with sludge

Ss27gogeta

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Spawne32 I don't believe heated seats were offered with the SS/SC either, but you can find that option in the SS/NA models

Yes heated seats were an option i have them in my 07 SS/SC

riceburner

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its a good engine but feel free to look at the dyno thread and i think you will understand why people say the lsj is better

chevygirl2006

I don't think that means an Lsj is better. I think it means more people have built Lsjs than the 2.4s.

ECaulk

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If the op wants to build for boost and keep the stock ecu go lsj, you already have the sensors and parameters in the ecu. If you're going stand alone, well now you're splitting hairs

Spawne32

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Just the vin # on it and make sure it comes up as an SS, dont believe they had the traditional gray interiors as an option.