differences between 2.4ss and scss?
2.4s have way more tunability than the lsj. the e67 pcm has way more love from hpt and efi live. its no wonder either, the e67 goes in some of the ls motors.
if you plan to build the car, a 2.4 with the forged internals would be the way to go, especially if it is cheaper than the lsj
if you plan to build the car, a 2.4 with the forged internals would be the way to go, especially if it is cheaper than the lsj
2.4s have way more tunability than the lsj. the e67 pcm has way more love from hpt and efi live. its no wonder either, the e67 goes in some of the ls motors.
if you plan to build the car, a 2.4 with the forged internals would be the way to go, especially if it is cheaper than the lsj
if you plan to build the car, a 2.4 with the forged internals would be the way to go, especially if it is cheaper than the lsj
Yes; The e67 PCM is more better
We(2.4s) also have the ability to run the flexfuel sensor and then never have to worry about the differences in alky content
I'm just messing with ya.
Last edited by Pitbull2o08; Mar 27, 2014 at 07:10 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
LSJ has forged crank good to 1000HP Forged Rods good to 500+ HP
LE5 has cast crank and cast rods except for the first year . Rods good to 350 hp and thats a stretch.
Crank good to unknown HP ha Ha Pistons in both engines only as good as your tuner !!!!!
LE5 has cast crank and cast rods except for the first year . Rods good to 350 hp and thats a stretch.
Crank good to unknown HP ha Ha Pistons in both engines only as good as your tuner !!!!!
The 2.4L e67 PCM is the same PCM that is used in the LS engines(vettes, ctsv, ect.)
DSX tuning has a flex fuel sensor kit that you can wire into your pcm and be able to have the PCM read and change timing and afrs based on the alcohol content in the fuel...essentially eliminate the need for constantly checking with a hydrometer and changing your timing tables based on the actual alcohol content of your fuel(those that run e85)
The origional thread seems to have been lost; but after a 30sec google search:Dave's Flex fuel module & Alky Control kit details
buy that 2.4 for $3500 or i will. lol. ive driven mine like a rental for over 6 years, car is over 203K miles and still runs strong, i haven't had any major issues.
any links to the for sale ad? just so we can get a look at it
any links to the for sale ad? just so we can get a look at it
Are you asking if you can just strap on a turbo or m62 and not tune it? No, you can't do that.
It would allow you to put either gasoline or E85 in it, if any hardware changes at all the tune would need to be adjusted.
It would allow you to put either gasoline or E85 in it, if any hardware changes at all the tune would need to be adjusted.
Last edited by noorj; Mar 28, 2014 at 06:32 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
You need to run the wires to the proper pins in the pcm connector.
The kit varies pricewise in how you want it.
Dave will do AN fittings, barb fittings, quick disconnect, ect. ---Just about whatever you need
From some talking with him and some looking around and my tuner looking at my file; The cobalt E67 PCM doesnt have full HPT support with the flexfuel kit; The OS is slightly different and we are missing some of the important tables for the alky. You can go around this by using EFI Live then go back in with HPT.
More work than the LS-based engines, but still works.
The kit varies pricewise in how you want it.
Dave will do AN fittings, barb fittings, quick disconnect, ect. ---Just about whatever you need
From some talking with him and some looking around and my tuner looking at my file; The cobalt E67 PCM doesnt have full HPT support with the flexfuel kit; The OS is slightly different and we are missing some of the important tables for the alky. You can go around this by using EFI Live then go back in with HPT.
More work than the LS-based engines, but still works.
Sorry for reviving a dead thread. Just wanted to confirm the forged bottom end in the '06 LE5, along with the beefier Manual Transmission than the Boosted Cobalts. Heard rumblings of this for a while and was never able to get a solid answer on it. Been a bit worried about Supercharging my '06 since I got it in September and wondering if I need to put any money into internals as well.
sorry for reviving a dead thread. Just wanted to confirm the forged bottom end in the '06 le5, along with the beefier manual transmission than the boosted cobalts. Heard rumblings of this for a while and was never able to get a solid answer on it. Been a bit worried about supercharging my '06 since i got it in september and wondering if i need to put any money into internals as well.
2008+ 12598216 a 2.4-b/p (le5), (2nd des) rod, conn (powder metal w/smooth surface cap and single ridge across cap, w/o mfg trim mark around outer perimeter) (for 1st des see 12596088)


