2.4L LE5 Performance Tech 16 valve 171 hp EcoTec with 163 lb-ft of torque

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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 03:12 PM
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Just the vin # on it and make sure it comes up as an SS, dont believe they had the traditional gray interiors as an option.
Mine had grey interior.
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 03:42 PM
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Car insurance costs will be the biggest difference besides the power. Main reason I went 2.4... Can always m62 and still have reasonable insurance costs.
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 04:51 PM
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Mine is higher than some Lsj/LNF people I know lol
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 04:59 PM
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Mine is higher than some Lsj/LNF people I know lol
You're a woman
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 05:02 PM
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2.4s have way more tunability than the lsj. the e67 pcm has way more love from hpt and efi live. its no wonder either, the e67 goes in some of the ls motors.

if you plan to build the car, a 2.4 with the forged internals would be the way to go, especially if it is cheaper than the lsj
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 05:38 PM
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You're a woman
Male insurances are higher actually
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 06:38 PM
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Im old, my insurance is cheap.
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by southal cobalt
2.4s have way more tunability than the lsj. the e67 pcm has way more love from hpt and efi live. its no wonder either, the e67 goes in some of the ls motors.

if you plan to build the car, a 2.4 with the forged internals would be the way to go, especially if it is cheaper than the lsj

Yes; The e67 PCM is more better

We(2.4s) also have the ability to run the flexfuel sensor and then never have to worry about the differences in alky content
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 07:10 PM
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Yes; The e67 PCM is more better We(2.4s) also have the ability to run the flexfuel sensor and then never have to worry about the differences in alky content
What does this mean?

Originally Posted by chevygirl2006
Male insurances are higher actually
I'm just messing with ya.

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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 07:12 PM
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If the car is in good shape, 3500 is a good price.
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 07:49 PM
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LSJ has forged crank good to 1000HP Forged Rods good to 500+ HP
LE5 has cast crank and cast rods except for the first year . Rods good to 350 hp and thats a stretch.
Crank good to unknown HP ha Ha Pistons in both engines only as good as your tuner !!!!!
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Pitbull2o08
What does this mean?


I'm just messing with ya.


The 2.4L e67 PCM is the same PCM that is used in the LS engines(vettes, ctsv, ect.)

DSX tuning has a flex fuel sensor kit that you can wire into your pcm and be able to have the PCM read and change timing and afrs based on the alcohol content in the fuel...essentially eliminate the need for constantly checking with a hydrometer and changing your timing tables based on the actual alcohol content of your fuel(those that run e85)

The origional thread seems to have been lost; but after a 30sec google search:Dave's Flex fuel module & Alky Control kit details
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Old Mar 28, 2014 | 01:33 AM
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So if I rewire the PCM, I can run e85 without a tune?
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Old Mar 28, 2014 | 06:29 AM
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buy that 2.4 for $3500 or i will. lol. ive driven mine like a rental for over 6 years, car is over 203K miles and still runs strong, i haven't had any major issues.

any links to the for sale ad? just so we can get a look at it
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Old Mar 28, 2014 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Pitbull2o08
So if I rewire the PCM, I can run e85 without a tune?
It would need to be calibrated, but once it is there would be no changes needed to switch from gasoline to E85 and back whenever you want.
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Old Mar 28, 2014 | 06:28 PM
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It would need to be calibrated, but once it is there would be no changes needed to switch from gasoline to E85 and back whenever you want.
Holy ****... How much does all this cost? Will it all work if I'm stock and switch to turbo or m62?
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Old Mar 28, 2014 | 06:32 PM
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Are you asking if you can just strap on a turbo or m62 and not tune it? No, you can't do that.

It would allow you to put either gasoline or E85 in it, if any hardware changes at all the tune would need to be adjusted.

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Old Mar 29, 2014 | 12:40 AM
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I think he's asking if he was turbo'd and had that with a good tune if he could switch between E85 and 93 whenever he wanted and it run fine.
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Old Mar 29, 2014 | 10:25 AM
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Sorry, I've just never heard of this before and it got me excited. I want to know what all I need to make it work. Just his censor?
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Old Mar 29, 2014 | 10:37 PM
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You need to run the wires to the proper pins in the pcm connector.

The kit varies pricewise in how you want it.
Dave will do AN fittings, barb fittings, quick disconnect, ect. ---Just about whatever you need

From some talking with him and some looking around and my tuner looking at my file; The cobalt E67 PCM doesnt have full HPT support with the flexfuel kit; The OS is slightly different and we are missing some of the important tables for the alky. You can go around this by using EFI Live then go back in with HPT.

More work than the LS-based engines, but still works.
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Old Aug 14, 2014 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by mongorat427
LSJ has forged crank good to 1000HP Forged Rods good to 500+ HP
LE5 has cast crank and cast rods except for the first year . Rods good to 350 hp and thats a stretch.
Crank good to unknown HP ha Ha Pistons in both engines only as good as your tuner !!!!!
Sorry for reviving a dead thread. Just wanted to confirm the forged bottom end in the '06 LE5, along with the beefier Manual Transmission than the Boosted Cobalts. Heard rumblings of this for a while and was never able to get a solid answer on it. Been a bit worried about Supercharging my '06 since I got it in September and wondering if I need to put any money into internals as well.
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Old Aug 14, 2014 | 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by roadrash703
sorry for reviving a dead thread. Just wanted to confirm the forged bottom end in the '06 le5, along with the beefier manual transmission than the boosted cobalts. Heard rumblings of this for a while and was never able to get a solid answer on it. Been a bit worried about supercharging my '06 since i got it in september and wondering if i need to put any money into internals as well.
2006-2007: 12596088 a 2.4-b/p (le5), (1st des) rod, conn (forged steel w/rounded edges on cap and mfg trim mark around outer perimeter) (for 2nd des see 12611360)

2008+ 12598216 a 2.4-b/p (le5), (2nd des) rod, conn (powder metal w/smooth surface cap and single ridge across cap, w/o mfg trim mark around outer perimeter) (for 1st des see 12596088)
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Old Aug 15, 2014 | 12:50 AM
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Awesome, thanks. I really appreciate it. Any idea on how much abuse the forged bottom end can take?
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Old Aug 15, 2014 | 08:54 AM
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close to 400whp is rough/general consensus
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