2.4L LE5 Performance Tech 16 valve 171 hp EcoTec with 163 lb-ft of torque

SS/SC Catback vs. 2.4L OEM

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Old Sep 26, 2008 | 09:08 AM
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then put an afterburner on it
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Old Sep 26, 2008 | 09:25 AM
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Tricycle pedals would be better.....
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Old Sep 26, 2008 | 09:27 AM
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put a ps3 in it
and a bov

we are whoring the wrong thread....

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Old Sep 26, 2008 | 09:56 AM
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No they wouldn't because too big of pipes slow down the gases velocity.



the right exhaust velocity can creat a scavaging effect that "pulls" the gases when the valves open. Having the highest rate of exhaust velocity with as little back pressure as possible will flow the best. read more at the link below

http://www.nsxprime.com/FAQ/Miscella...austtheory.htm
Great Read thanks for the link...:
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Old Sep 26, 2008 | 11:15 AM
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http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/html_pr...torquemyth.htm

Destroying a myth.



Some say that "an engine needs backpressure to work correctly." Is this true?

No. It would be more correct to say, "a perfectly stock engine that cannot adjust its fuel delivery needs backpressure to work correctly." This idea is a myth. As with all myths, however, there is a hint of fact with this one. Particularly, some people equate backpressure with torque, and others fear that too little backpressure will lead to valve burning.


Older carbureted cars couldn't compensate for extreme changes in the exhaust -- you had to enrich the carb if you put headers and freer flowing exhaust on it. Our Cobalts control fuel through the ECM/PCM and can make the adjustments automatically -- after a little driving!!!!
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Old Sep 26, 2008 | 12:11 PM
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yay for you
there is a stickied thread about that on here
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Old Sep 26, 2008 | 12:38 PM
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Back pressure is not needed..........BUT exhaust scavenging IS needed. If you run a huge pipe, then if not designed properly (and not matching the engine size) there will be little to no scavenging effect. Let me put it this way.......it is possible for a well designed properly matched smaller exhaust to be more efficient and flow more than a larger exhaust. You can't just pick the biggest exhaust out there and expect it to make the most power and torque.
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Old Sep 26, 2008 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by maverick0716
Back pressure is not needed..........BUT exhaust scavenging IS needed. If you run a huge pipe, then if not designed properly (and not matching the engine size) there will be little to no scavenging effect. Let me put it this way.......it is possible for a well designed properly matched smaller exhaust to be more efficient and flow more than a larger exhaust. You can't just pick the biggest exhaust out there and expect it to make the most power and torque.
UR correct.....to a point. For maximum performance free exhaust cannot be beat...PERIOD! All these articles about velocity and tuning are based on driving mormal -- not WOT! If the idea that you must have scavenging and a tuned exhaust were true then NO top fueler would have Zomie headers and no Sportsman Class car would be running open headers. They all would have an exhaust system.

No, I'm not comparing my car to the above! The RT system I chose works well on my 2.4L -- the idea that my 2.4L needs more backpressure is...hogwash.....

The overriding factor for car manufacturers in designing an exhaust system is sound abatement!
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Old Sep 26, 2008 | 03:22 PM
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Okay then........do you think that your car would make more HP an TQ if you ran an open header?
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Old Sep 26, 2008 | 11:33 PM
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Okay then........do you think that your car would make more HP an TQ if you ran an open header?
Since the car as-is is set up to run through a cat....no. On the other hand, if you can tune for it to work...yes.
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