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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 11:01 PM
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really? they look cool for a sedan. what mazda 3 did u have? (engine, tranny etc...)
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 11:11 PM
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these cars look identical as in mechanical. the engines both 2.4. i'm surprised scion would put such a large 4 cylinder in their car. quick question though, anyone know the compression ratio of the ss 2.4? and... you guys think the 2 would run even?
give me your opinion.
any input on these 2 cars would be great.
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Did you buy one yet?
My girlfriend just got a TC and she loves it. It has a very refined interior and rides and handles well. Not to mention it has a camry engine in it so should result in better resale and reliability. If your interested in upgrading for performance in the future, TRD has a supercharger kit that is covered under the factory warranty that should be well over 200whp and if you need even more power there are already turbo kits available for 400whp. Now if I can just talk my gf into that.
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 11:40 PM
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i really like the looks of the tc's theyre pretty nice, and as stated above(camry engine)^^^they will run forever
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 11:29 AM
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TC weighs 3000lbs, has a laughable 6200 rpm redline. Plus the Coblat owns it for looks.
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 01:01 PM
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TC weighs 3000lbs, has a laughable 6200 rpm redline. Plus the Coblat owns it for looks.
TC weighs about 75lbs more than the cobalt so that's negligible. TC's have more torque down low in the rpm range which really pulls it off the line. It would be interesting to see a race between these two. If you don't like the looks then that's one thing, but my girlfriend only paid $17,600 and when we looked at a 2006 Cobalt SS which we did briefly, loaded similarly it stickered for like $20,500 which I'm sure they would've negotiated back on, but I doubt they would've went $3,000 back plus the TC had Ipod connectivity and control built in which was a big plus for us. In the end she liked the looks better on the TC, ride was smoother due to the longer wheelbase, sunroof was larger plus rear passengers have one, optional supercharger covered by warranty, toyota vs. chevy resale value and reliability, and then bunch of neat little features like tire pressure monitoring, ipod connectivity, and the interior is really nice looking and not cheap feeling at all which I will say I liked about the cobalt as well. I think if your looking at the cobalt ss coupe you definitely need to at least consider the TC and go drive one.
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 07:36 PM
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Whats the TC's low down tq? The Cobalt is already pulling 151lb-ft at 2200rpm.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 03:20 AM
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TC weighs about 75lbs more than the cobalt so that's negligible. TC's have more torque down low in the rpm range which really pulls it off the line. It would be interesting to see a race between these two. If you don't like the looks then that's one thing, but my girlfriend only paid $17,600 and when we looked at a 2006 Cobalt SS which we did briefly, loaded similarly it stickered for like $20,500 which I'm sure they would've negotiated back on, but I doubt they would've went $3,000 back plus the TC had Ipod connectivity and control built in which was a big plus for us. In the end she liked the looks better on the TC, ride was smoother due to the longer wheelbase, sunroof was larger plus rear passengers have one, optional supercharger covered by warranty, toyota vs. chevy resale value and reliability, and then bunch of neat little features like tire pressure monitoring, ipod connectivity, and the interior is really nice looking and not cheap feeling at all which I will say I liked about the cobalt as well. I think if your looking at the cobalt ss coupe you definitely need to at least consider the TC and go drive one.

no Scions in Canada. Although I have seen an XB around......
I agree the price is very good---but who knows what that would translate into here in Canada. Could easily be more $$$

My car (2.4 SS) weighs 2840 with around 1/4 tank. It has awesome low end for 4cly. Of course the gearing plays a big ahnd in that.

TRD does have some cool stuff no doubt.

I just think a 4 cly needs a much higher redline.

I applaud Toyota for bringing a small inexspesive coupe to market...but I really dislike Toyotas. Its the bland styling they all seem to have. Its kind of a boring company. Where thes flagship sports car??? Oh the Supra WAS good but has been dead for a long time. Okay thats my rant.

Not that I am anti-import---I like Mazda
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 07:07 AM
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Actually, as a current ZX2 owner and possible future Cobalt owner, I can tell you that the above quote is sort of half right.

Your standard Zetc with VVT is used on the exhaust cam for emissions control in place of an EGR system. At wide open throttle the VVT is disabled for max performance. The SVT focus uses VVT on the intake cam to increase performance as most people expect VVT to do.

2 completely different approaches to VVT technology.

-Deuce
as a former Ford Contour owner I'm gonna have to correct you on that. On a standard Zetec you have VCT (variable cam timing) not VVT and yes it is for emissions control and a pain in the ass for those unlucky standard zetecs that have been stuck with it.

Only the SVT Zetec has VVT...
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 07:24 AM
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This is my personal opinion, so I dont wanna make anyone take this offensively, but i think the Scion TC's are just an ugly, flat fronted Celica knock-off

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