if you owned a 26B Rx-7, I would agree. Besides that.....please

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqPWqtjqkzQ

 

alot

 

There's a thread on THIS forum with VIDEO of a SS/NA beating a SS/SC from a light. Does anyone else remember seeing this.
THe SS/SC driver wasn't paying attention to the light and got murdered off the line, and botched some shifts. The SS/NA driver went perfect, and held about a car length the entire time.
You 2.0l guys need to realize that your engine is not God's gift to the Delta platform, and if a SS/NA driver catches you napping, you better have your "A" game on to save face.

To the OP. You're outmatched quite a bit. Full bolt on's, good tune, injector swap will probably have you running within 1 1/2 car lengths to a stock SS/SC, as they start upgrading it only gets worse . To win you need a nice 75 Wet shot of nitrous, or a turbo kit.

 

thats 1 big reason i didnt get the supercharged im only 19 and insurance was crazy of course i would rather of bought a supercharged but i also own a atv and sled i cant throw all my money away in insurance im very satisfied with my ss and ive beaten a few cars i didnt think i would i have 2 friends with a supercharged wqith the stage 2 and i must say its nuts lol

thanks josh

 

first the SS couldnt beat the srt4 or any other tuner now its getting beat by 2.4L and 2.2L, **** I think i might have bought the slowest car on the planet.

 

well yes stock for stock..that obvious who will win. but i think with a a intake/exhaust/injectors and a really good tune i think its possible. when i went to the track some ss/sc were doing sometime that i could prolly keep up with them when i have a simple tune and a intake. ill let u guys know. puttin the injectors in prolly this week and ill find a stock ss/sc and tape it.

 

sibbling rivalry is silly, i have a 2.4l and honestly dont ever think of trying to compete with a ss/sc. i rather compete within my range and just beat all the fast and furious idiots with their rice rockets. i find bigger joy in beating someone who is at the same level as me because then i know it wasnt my bolt ons, my spray or any other tune that beat the car but pure skill and to all of you ss/sc guys you guys just make yourself look like major pr*cks. if people have questions they want constructive answers not wise cracks, no one ever does. so get your heads out of your ass*s and if you have nothing good to say about someones topic then just dont say nothing at all move to the next post and let the people who are actually gonna help them out answer the question. that's my .02

 

im starting to see alot more guys wanting to get turbos for there 2.4s HERE WE COME 2.0 SC'S we can definatly keep up with the 2.0s then. im thinking about turboing next spring and getting lower comp pistons and have this shop work on a good tune for that turbo set up on my 2.4 cuz there is no tuning for it it has to be worked out i guess. well its possible i know it. if i get the things i want like cams and pistons and turbo. im shooting for 300whp or so.

ryan.

 

pistons and a nice kit set-up w/ properly sized turbo and your good for 400whp

 

just to play devils advocate....

Insurance rates: Granted, higher for the ss/sc, but what would an insurance claims agent say if he was inspecting your car after an accident and saw it was aftermarket turboed.

Price: True its probably possible to have a 2.2 faster than a 2.0 with less money, but if you think beyond the first 6 months with the turbo, and the dyno sheet, is it gonna end up costing you more money? very likely, because the second you have a problem, its comin outta your wallet cuz you have no warranty left.


for every 2.0 owner who thinks their "soo much better"
theres a 2.2 owner who generalises and blames the rest of us for the actions of a few.

Im sure you, as a 2.2 owner, would hate to hear me say something like "Yeah theres so many 2.2 owners around here who regret buying the slower car and just hate on us cuz were faster"
because its not true of most 2.2 owners. but for some....it is.

try not to generalise. because in truth, theres a shitload of great people on this forum.....and dispite contrary belief, lots of them are ss/sc owners, and are happy to help out and discuss our cars regardless of trim level.

and in all honesty, it bugs us to be generalised with the few idiots who think their king ****,
just as much as it bugs you when someone says "why didnt you just buy a ss/sc"


Btw: a 75 shot with boltons would really surprise a stock ss/sc owner

 

at least your not asking this question while driving a 2,2 that would be worse

 

8grand? and how much hp are you at now? yo shold be able to beat it alittle easier than that. the 2.2 makes 212whp with a turbo yo shold be looking at least 230....?

and no yor just as wrong. i am turboing my 2.2 and i have no dobt i will beat a stock ss/sc, then once i finish my internal work i have no dobt of beating many other ss/sc with other mods

 

Personally i'm entertained by how this entire thread violates the "new rule" that was proposed what, a month ago and the majority of frequent visitors to the site voted to keep? and the mods haven't done ****, haha
exactly what i was going to propose
those mods alone will barely do anything. get yourself HPTuned w/ the 75 wet shot and you'd give a stock ss/sc a good race. open up the exhaust (2.5" or better) and it'll help even more
good post, but i'd also propose a procharger kit, of course

 

8 grand is including all mods in my sig not just the turbo kit.

 

I run a 2.2 and want to build onto it, as long as you know what your doing and not a bad driver you can keep from destroying you car.
In my opinion, I would first add engine dampners, clutch, flywheel, suspension, tires, and wheels. Because the power isn't any good but for smoking tires and beating on your tranny and engine mounts.

and a lSD

 

Something about a belt driven Turbo just doesn't sit right with me. Now that I've said that, watch me be the first to get one.

 

I hear you man, i'm not trying to generalize, i kno a lot of 2.0 guys on here are cool and real helpful. I didn't mean to sound like im saying everyones that way, bc i know that its not like that

as far as the other stuff, i wouldn't void my warranty to put on a turbo, id wait it was over. you gotta good point about the insurance though. i'm just gonna do what i can to go fast ;-)

 

grab someone's stock blower/intake manifold, and injectors and get it tuned..
(plus minor supporting mods)

or get a turbo kit..

or, get a big bottle of N2O and hope it dosen't blow up.

i think it might suprise a modded ss s/c owner too.

 

You will need quite a bit more then just "pinstons and a nice kit set-up w/ properly sized turbo" to see 400 whp. New rods, exhaust, new head, gaskets, New cams, valve job, probably a new crank wouldn't be a bad idea, a good tune and minimum 100 octane. With all this you MIGHT be at 400 whp.

You maybe able to just put in some new pistons and a huge turbo with big injectors and get some huge HP numbers - but your car would last one night before you broke everything.

 

Exactly.

 

ah but the fact that after 6 back-to-back dyno pulls i got outta my car and put my hand right on the thing is oh so sexy

 

Threads like these are silly cause

1. The original poster wants to be fast as or faster than a specific car rather than a certain power range for his own personal satisfaction

2. There are a bunch of posts with people suggesting how to be faster and making up hp numbers

3. Thread eventually goes no where

4. The original poster would have learned more reading a book

 

SRT4 ftw!lol

 

This one time I went camping with my buddy Jim and I had to go take a **** but I didn't want Jim to see me take a **** so I went into the woods, pulled down my pants and squated but what I didn't see was the family of racoons that was right behind my ass. Well appearantly they were hungry cause my nuts caught the downside to their unfortunate hunger. Long story short, Jim watches me **** from now on.