riko540

Actually guys the artical said the next gen aveo unofficially has run sub 6 second 0-60. I just assumed its the RS seeing as it has the LUJ. But again it doesn't mean that GM hasn't gone and tune or put a different turbo on the LUJ to give it better numbers or put a different engine in seeing as there isn't to much info on the next gen Aveo.

redcobalt07

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like yes this engine gets better mileage but because they put a turbo on it you have to run premium gas so it kind of nulls the better mileage in terms of saving money. Not to mention the hp rating is just embarrassing.

Tomtwtwtw

A turbo does not mean it has to run premium. There are plenty of turbo engines out there that don't require it. Being designed as a fuel-sipper, I'm sure this car will run fine on 87.

roderick

sorry man tunes dont work like that maybe another 25hp thats all.

elecblue06

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have you looked at the sstc and the vw market?

Do_WorkSS

IMO...its really friggin sad that...even when its turbocharged, it puts down less than 150. once again, thats just my opinion.

northvibe

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uhhh did you see what a tune did for lnf?

piratemosh666

Well, every one of these car companies better start making smaller and more fuel efficient engines quick. Did anyone happen to see that huge hole in the sea floor that BP made, which is spewing ungodly amounts of unrefined crude oil into the Gulf like it's a renewable resource????

riko540

it is sad that it makes less HP than a base model Honda Civic but hopefully the tune is really conservative and will reveal good numbers once HPTuners unlocks the ECM

northvibe

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wtf is your guys issue with it having lower hp? its a 1.4! My vibe had a 1.8l with 130hp at the crank. this isnt suppose to be a ******* race car. its smaller than the cobalt, its suppose to sip gas more than the cobalt. you guys are thinking its like a cobalt ss replacement? theres tiny diesel turbo's with less hp than a honda...SO? turbo doesnt mean InSanE raCe CAr!!1! if you noticed ford is using ecoboost's aka turbo's to enhance fuel economy and make a v6 tt make power like a v8 and a I4 turbo more like a small v6. You guys are totally missing the point of the car/engine.

Do_WorkSS

dont go getting your friggin panties in a wad. good god man simmer down. my point was that why waste production money by puttying a turbo on it and it makes **** numbers. just build the motor slightly larger and call it good. and i'd be willing to bet that your vibe wasnt boosted? so your still making more power and your motor was marginally bigger. all im saying is that boosting a 1.4L motor is a compelte waste of money.

riko540

He is right though its for fuel economy and only time will tell if it is a complete waste of money. I believe GM thinks that slapping a turbo on there will encourage aftermarket support. If the aftermarket support takes off it may help boost sales.

Do_WorkSS

yeah but really in the end, how much aftermarket can you produce for a little tiny itty bitty 1.4L? its not like an exhaust is going to get you 10HP. As for the motor? Again, how much can you build it up to produce before its pointless to spend anymore money? **** im sure you can mod it all you want with all upgrades available and it still wont peak 200HP

Dart_SI

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ive seen a 700whp d16....
granted its a honda engine but still
anythings possible.
id say depending on internals you could push out 300 with the right turbo set up.

roderick

The tune worked for the lnf only because gm had a very crappy tune on the car. Even with the lnf with a custom tune its still slower then most lsj. I dont see a 1.4l car producing 200hp from a tune alone. a 2.0 car producing 300hp with a tune is one thing.

Dart_SI

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zrated89

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i find it funny that its going to have a cast iron block kinda weird and heavier than aluminum

Do_WorkSS

^^^ very good point my friend....

Dart_SI

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has to be a reason behind that

Do_WorkSS

the only thing i cant think of is using it for strength purposes due to the small size of the engine and it being boosted.

dandaman15

I always thought cast iron was cheaper than aluminum. With its added strength and cost effectiveness it probably made more sense. It could also mean they are running more boost to begin with so there is not much more room for improvement beside new turbo. I wonder what type of pistons and rods are going in it.

rnjmur

Wow. I think you may have that backwards. Even without a tune an LNF is faster than most LSJ. Just because all the LSJ on this site are modded and most of them will keep up with a stock LNF or beat it, does not encompass even near the amount of LSJ that are actually on the road. With a HALF decent tune on an LNF you better be running a TVS or nitrous or else I hate to say it, but you are probably not going to be faster with your LSJ.

I think the Aveo RS will have quite a bit of potential with aftermarket and a tune. I bet there will be no problem pulling out 50 - 60 HP. If you can still average ~35 MPG while doing it, that will be pretty kick ass. True, it will never be a "sports car" or a "race car" but a 2500 lb car with 190HP/200TQ would still be pretty quick and give all the little sub compacts an **** raping without spending $3K or more.

northvibe

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waste? its not a waste. its a 1.4l!!! with out a turbo it would be at like 90-100hp, with turbo its at what 145hp or so. and gets 40mpg? thats WAY better than whats out their now NA. again this isnt a race car. you guys are all thinking turbo engines = performance. thats not what turbo's are all used for.

Do_WorkSS

its like im talking to a friggin kid! i'll break it down as if im talking to a five year old, so try and concentrate. im not saying its a damn race car! what im saying is that IN MY OPINION its a waste to design a turbo'd car that only has 138HP. like i said before, if they're looking for gas milage, bump it up to a 1.8L and scratch the turbo.

northvibe

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no its not. the 1.4 will have lower co2 output and get higher mileage than a 1.8..damn its like im talking to a friggin kid