Ok, so back in december I ordered a stage 3+ Spec Clutch and flywheel. I finally got around to installing it this past weekend. I had everything I needed at my girlfriends dad's house, so we did it there, and he helped, having done clutches in all of his car new and old.

We followed the directions that GM Performance Parts has on their website. I looked for the link but can't find it at the moment. We followed it step by step, and removed the tranny, replaced everything, and put it all back together. We started to bleed it, but was getting no where. I must have tried for an hour, then we decided to try to start the car.

It wouldn't start. It will turn on, but when I go to crank it, it just clicks, almost like when my injector fuse blew (first thing I'm gonna check tomorrow just in case. I checked some other fuses just in case). Nothing else happens.

I also ended up heading up to the store to get a different brake/clutch bleeding kit, ended up getting almost the exact same kind the recommend using in the guide. A vacuum bleeder. I tried that for an hour and no go.

Anyone have any suggestions?

 

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Does the car have enough voltage?? If you had the key on or something, the battery might be weak. Just a thought. I know if i'm working on my car for a while and have the radio on, it cranks kinda slow afterwards.

 

HPT says the PCM has 11.8 volts, but when I checked the battery itself it has 12.3.

It's a 2 week old Optima yellowtop.

 

do you have a spare key if you do try your spare

 

Double check to make sure you have all the electrical connectors connected properly. Check the fuses to make sure none of them blew as well. Also make sure that you properly wired the starter back up. That's about all I can think of at the moment. GOod luck man.

 

Id check the big ground wire going to the block... possibly loose? Also starter connections. Sounds like a bad ground though.

 

I wonder if the car thinks it's being stolen? The security features may have kicked on.

 

Happened to my friends vette. he hadn't driven it in a while and when to crank it up and went into complete shut down. his wife had to remove the t-top and climb out.

 

IS the theft light flashing when you try to start it? If it is thats the issue.

 

You have 2 seperate issues you need to address:
1) Bleeding the slave cylinder. If your not getting fluid out of the slave when you push the clutch pedal, the clutch will not disengage. When you go to start the car, its going to want to lurch forward if its in gear. If its in neutral, you will be able to start it, but you wont be able to get it into gear. Continue bleeding the clutch line til you have fluid coming out of it. Keep the master topped up. It is possible that you have caused a leak in the slave and thats why your not getting fluid.

2)Click but no start. Not a theft issues. Vehicle wont even click if it isnt the proper key. If its a click and no crank, you either have A) dead battery B) loose connection on the B+ wire C) No ground/weak ground/missing ground strap.

There you go. Get to work

 

check fuses and connetions first...make sure al fuses are good and all connections are made

Sounds to me like the starter is popping out to engage the flywheel then failing to engage it to spin it. Worst case ur flywheel may not be on flush.

Thats all i can think of for now

 

well, the whole thing is coming apart on thursday again. I'll be starting around 6am, and working all day non stop till I get it back together again.

 

Well, I figured out what the problem was. For whatever reason when comparing the stock clutch and flywheel and the Spec clutch and flywheel the spec clutch stands about a half inch too high. I compared the the part numbers and they all match what I have. The only problem I can foresee is that under the part number I have has this quote from the comments section on the site.

I plan on calling Spec again tomorrow morning and talking to them about it as well.

And I know that the clutch is rubbing because I've got some blue paint on my trans.

If anyone has used the spec clutch and flywheel, please pm me.

 

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I would send it ALL back and see if you can pick up the exedy combo......It works FANTASTIC!! But ya, check all of your fuses, and I didn't notice, but you DID disconnect the battery when you did this right?? If not something may have grounded out?? Who knows......I hope you figure it all out, the only other thing I can think of is you left that little cap off on the fitting on the transmission?? If you did leave it off it will be pissing fluid out when you try to bleed the slave....If I remember correctly. Good luck!

 

yea, I'm shipping it back to them and they're going to replace it. The guy requested some pictures and mentioned how different it looked from stock. The warrenty has been up for awhile now, but since the car was in storage/too cold out, it hasn't gone in, but they're still replacing it no problem.

 

Spec sucks, Go Exedy! Get yourself a refund!

 

Seriously....I've got 530 miles on the exedy now.....It feels like it was ment to be there.....the pedal feels like stock.....well.....probably just because Im use to how heavy it is now.....but it's a fantastic clutch.....

 

check the clutch line connection to the top of the clutch there is a small nipple it gets stuck inside the hose sometimes pull it out and put it onto the nipple ontop of the tranny, then you can bleed had the same problem, bleeding does take some time pm me if you need anything,, ive installed about 7 cluthes now.

 

ahem, thanks for mentioning that I was initally the one to point out that the combination was too big when I measured it with your g/f's dad. The combo was rubbing against the trans when everything was assembled and you turned the crank pulley by hand it would stop and make a noise. BTW, this installation so far is the install from hell.

I hope I can lend a hand still if your not done when I get back.

 

Oh yea, major props to sneaky for help!

As well as a few other members such as alredline04, fwdcobalt, and Akasen.

I should be getting the clutch back today. If so, then today will be measuring and comparing day, until I have work from 3-3. Then tomorrow will be install of the clutch, heat exchanger (while everything is still out) and then once I make sure the shifter cables are good on the tranny side, and I drive around a bit, its back to the garage for my hurst shifter. It will be a good day. Then I'll end it by hitting up a local meeting spot, to show off my beautiful baby. but no racing for a couple weeks.

 

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Alright, time for the update you've all been waiting for. I got the clutch back tuesday, right before I had to go to work. I ended up stopping by Katherine's house, and told her dad that I took a quick look, looked a lot better, but I didn't have time to measure. Off to work I go, and when he got there he measured it all over the place, and said it would work perfectly. I get home and sleep by 4am, wake up to head on out around 8ish.

I get the flywheel back on after fighting with it for so long (the flywheel will not just bolt up. You have to rotate it until all the holes line up perfectly) So thanks Al for helping me figure that out, getting the trans on, and the engine cradle. He had to leave, as did I, so I ate and took a long break.

Katherine's dad gets back and we finish up everything. Torque everything down to spec, and get the tires back on. Go to start it up.

It fires right up, then, after maybe a full second

It dies.

We try it a couple more times with the same results. So we check everything we could think of, and make sure no wires are being crushed and what not. Well, we try it again, and it dies again, so I head on home and grab my laptop with HPT on it. Hook it up and get it ready to scan before I crank it. Well, once again, it dies after a second, but in the second, we get more then enough data to figure the problem out. Looking at the Maf, it was reading 0 all the way across.

So I remove the panel covering the intake, and take a look. Well, 2 weeks ago, when working on the clutch, a socket or something fell into the intake tube, so I removed the whole thing and put it back, but I guess I either forgot to, or figured I'd do it later, but the sensor wasn't plugged in. After everything was hooked back up, started it up again, and she purred away.

Didn't have a chance to drive it yet, but tomorrow that's about all I'll be doing.

Major thanks to everyone who helped out, both in person/over the phone/online!

 

congrats on getting her going again!