been thinking lately about a mod i want to do.
Im picking up my cobra H/E today,
and im thinking of the idea of instead of the return line going back to the pump...
running it up to a fabbed aluminum box mounted on the passenger side of the engine bay.
this box will have an inlet going inside to a long coil of copper pipe that the coolant will flow through, and then exit back to the pump.
then on track days, the box can be filled up with ice/dry ice etc.

anyone have thoughts....problems...suggestions...comments?

 

i will be making one within the next couple weeks for track days. i know a guy with a lightning here that was getting 40 degree intake temps with his setup

 

yeah thats exactly what i want.
So are you going with a copper coil kinda thing? or a little rad?
whats your thoughts?


I like the idea of "colder than air" cooling mods

 

all i plan on doing is setting up an extra surge tank over the passenger side front whellwell, and then having a means of draining some of the coolant so i can just dump a lot of ice cold water into the system and circulate it while im there. do that and have the jumper and you will have ridiculously cold intake temps

 

yeah i thought about that. but changing the mixture means draining the tank every winter :/

it would be sweet to dump ice right into the flow though.
that would cut temps very quickly

 

Another trick that us muscle car guys do is a ice box for your fuel line. Works wonders!!

I suggest no dry ice for that, since you can actually cause the fuel to crystalize.

 

that sounds like a pretty good idea to me but i dont run at the track very much. make sure you make a drainage tube going out the bottom for easy cleaning. i just got my dual pass heat exchanger today so hopefully i will be running cooler also.

 

thats my goal. not to just add more fluid in the system (although that works too), but to acutally have seriously cold fluid circulating

 

if you are going this route, few ideas...

first have a pet **** on it so you can drain it easily. not just a drain line because you don't want to leak on the track or let any of that cold water out.

second, even if you use dry ice... fill it with water... the water keeps the plumbing cooler than just the ice... plus the smoke would be cool.

third. keep a bypass hose in the car, so if this thing leaks, you can choose not to use it.

fourth keep some antifreeze it... just in case you forget to empty it during the winter months.

fifth if you get real ambitious, get a small bubbler or pump to keep it circulating.

lastly, wire a relay that will allow you to leave the he pump on even with the engine off... so that in staging, you can cool the coolant constanly.

oh and get a pressure gauge for the whole thing so you can see any leaks from the cockpit.

 

good points there. thanks man.

 

agree 100%

 

Damn, this would be a good idea.

 

I only see one problem with the dry ice and thats that it may freeze your coolant and then no cooling (IDK what it will actually freeze at).

There are some cool radiator options from equipment that are kind of box shaped that you could build this around. You could fill the box with some really cold grade washed fluid and really cold ice??

Build the box around something like this perhaps??? http://cgi.ebay.com/Lytron-air-liqui...ayphotohosting

 

i've been thinking about this also, i was thinking of using a heater core inside a box, but i didn't know where to put it. I like your idea better of a thing of copper tubing inside the box.

instead of doing an s-shape though i would make a coil out of copper tubing and then a box around that, then put the ice in the middle of the coil. You could get more surface area out of a coil then an s-shape.

 

if u r using reg. ice with water..........put salt in the water it makes it colder.........as seen and tested on myth busters for making beer colder faster..........should work the same with the coolant...........

 

yea this is something i was planning on doing over the winter to help out on track days.. but i might go turbo so i dont wanna waste my time... but maybe i will an if i go turbo i can sell it lol

 

except id rather not run SALT through a system highly composed of metal.

 

i was talking about put water and ice and salt in a box sealed with a drain and the coiled hose running through it sealed so they dont mix...........then it wouldnt run through the system and u wouldnt have a worry

 

I'm not sure if this is EXACTLY the same thing but, Victory_Red_SS and JBP made a "supercooler" and is supposed to work better then an icebox.

Here is what he says-
And here is what he got made.


Forgive me if this is not exactly what you are looking for.

 

where is that for sale at???

 

all custom i believe

 

I would contact JBP for that piece of work right there.

 

don't waste your time in my opinion you will not need that thing unless you are pushing serious power like real serious

 

In that piece right there for a typical setup it would be a little too much for the application. But an icebox would yield good results.

 

lol They are called Cool cans and hey have been around for ever. You can do your fuel lines with sumpin as simple as a large pill bottle with a hole cut in it for the Fuel line and some silicon sealent around that. Lovely bit of 1950s tech there. the traditional method for air intakes and coolent hoses was to use a coffee can with a hole cut in it and a folded over lip so as not to cut the hoses and the gaps filled with sealent of some sort.