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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 04:58 PM
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How do you think I got my left elbow rehab'd from when I shattered it
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 07:04 PM
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How do you think I got my left elbow rehab'd from when I shattered it
that was from when you were riding shotgun when i was driving...
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 09:01 AM
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Cool man. Now stick a smaller pulley on there and really have some fun!

Edit: Oh wait nevermind. Sorry, thought you had the TVS... Didn't you have one?
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 09:07 AM
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ah my car will be up and running today on e85 need to hurry and order my 2.7 tho
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 09:44 AM
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ah my car will be up and running today on e85 need to hurry and order my 2.7 tho
TVS w/ 2.7 + 80's + E85? What are you going to do about running out of fuel?
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 09:54 AM
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TVS w/ 2.7 + 80's + E85? What are you going to do about running out of fuel?
he is stock blower at the moment i believe
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 09:56 AM
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Thats nasty that you stayed with the tvs...im going 2.6 now plus ported=tvs eater lol haha
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by lsjwannabe
he is stock blower at the moment i believe
Oh. I'm just gonna leave this thread. I can't get it right.
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 12:02 PM
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dumb post

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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 12:13 PM
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Umm man, you know that stoich for e85 is 9.765, not 14.7 like normal fuel.

DO NOT RUN E85 AT THE SAME A/F AS GAS!
No ****. E85 stoich is 9.7, but got a question for ya. Do you know how a wideband sensor works?? The wideband reads lambda, the digital readout is a representation of what the Lambda equates to stoich for gasoline. If E85 9.7 = 1.00 lambda, and gasoline 14.7 = 1.00 lambda, so what happens when you shoot your maf cal sky high to make the guage read 14.7? Your 14.7 readout is the 1.00 lambda. It's all in the math.
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 12:24 PM
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Hi, back again. Did you leave your stoich at 14.7? Or change it to 9.7? Or perhaps somewhere in between?

Thank you
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by WickedSS2005
No ****. E85 stoich is 9.7, but got a question for ya. Do you know how a wideband sensor works?? The wideband reads lambda, the digital readout is a representation of what the Lambda equates to stoich for gasoline. If E85 9.7 = 1.00 lambda, and gasoline 14.7 = 1.00 lambda, so what happens when you shoot your maf cal sky high to make the guage read 14.7? Your 14.7 readout is the 1.00 lambda. It's all in the math.
lol i feel a bit dumb now, thanks. I never mess with alcohol or ethanol, was under the impression that it had to be lower on the readout as well
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 05:13 PM
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TVS w/ 2.7 + 80's + E85? What are you going to do about running out of fuel?
m62 here til i get all of it out that i can then tvs nxt yr
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 05:52 PM
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lol i feel a bit dumb now, thanks. I never mess with alcohol or ethanol, was under the impression that it had to be lower on the readout as well
i was under the same impression in the beginning, until i made a call to some fell corn heads here in town.

doh!

plus paul yaw gave me some needed inside info on running it properly
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 09:49 PM
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Hi, back again. Did you leave your stoich at 14.7? Or change it to 9.7? Or perhaps somewhere in between?

Thank you
My tune is the same as my gas tune, other than my PE is 11.5 (instead of 12.2) and my maf cal is 30% or more higher

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i was under the same impression in the beginning, until i made a call to some fell corn heads here in town.

doh!

plus paul yaw gave me some needed inside info on running it properly
Thanks for the help Area

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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 01:20 AM
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not a problem


p.s. i am back in the corn game with some new toys
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 01:22 AM
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 01:35 AM
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don't be jealous. as tree huggy hippy time go earth your ******* state is. i am surprised you guys don't have e85 out there
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 03:48 AM
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Be careful when quoting E85 AFRs. You shouldn't be running anywhere near 11.6 AFR on E85. If so you are lean by about 40% or so. You should try reading in lambda instead and getting yourself familiar with that. 11.6 nets you at about .79 lambda, which is a tad lean for E85 at 7.7:1. Try to richen it up closer to .76 or so (7.3:1) and I bet she makes some more power. E85 is not like gasoline in that aspect. Richer will actually produce more power. The only down side is the richer you go, the more fuel/injector you need. Even the ID 1000cc injectors on my car can barely keep up with that on the returnless system. Just food for thought for the E85 noobs. A return fuel system and the ID 1000cc is a sure fire way to have enough fuel on E85 and to make sure you aren't idling at 6.8:1 AFR because the injectors misfire below 1.3ms. I think even Area47 switched off from them because of this exact issue.
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 06:25 AM
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Thanks for the info SDz. I've been trying to dial it back in, and as of last night, it was 11.4 which is 0.775. Anyone else have issue w/ every other time the car is ran, the idle surges? It is exactly every other time I run the car.
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 08:52 AM
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Yeap. I've adjusted my idle timing and idle speed a bit and made it better but the surge is still there. I also have an issue with running out of fuel after 6500 rpm. I will be purchasing ZZP's BRFPS to resolve both issues.

Also, for reference, I've been commanding .77 lambda at wot.
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 11:11 AM
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Lol I only know of like one station an hour and a half away, you're right there should be more.
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by StreetDreamz
Be careful when quoting E85 AFRs. You shouldn't be running anywhere near 11.6 AFR on E85. If so you are lean by about 40% or so. You should try reading in lambda instead and getting yourself familiar with that. 11.6 nets you at about .79 lambda, which is a tad lean for E85 at 7.7:1. Try to richen it up closer to .76 or so (7.3:1) and I bet she makes some more power. E85 is not like gasoline in that aspect. Richer will actually produce more power. The only down side is the richer you go, the more fuel/injector you need. Even the ID 1000cc injectors on my car can barely keep up with that on the returnless system. Just food for thought for the E85 noobs. A return fuel system and the ID 1000cc is a sure fire way to have enough fuel on E85 and to make sure you aren't idling at 6.8:1 AFR because the injectors misfire below 1.3ms. I think even Area47 switched off from them because of this exact issue.
i switched back because i "was" out of fuel pump. not any more however. when on e85, i run a stoich of 10.4.
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
when on e85, i run a stoich of 10.4.
Have you found out why it was recommended to you to use this as your stoich yet? I'm wondering if you are doing this because you are not tuning based on lambda. Otherwise, what is the advantage one way or the other? It seems to me that if you dial your car in to run lambda -- 1.0, then it really makes no difference what your stoich AFR is.

Somebody please smack me if I'm wrong here.
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 12:54 PM
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It would make sense to run at 10.4 stoich if you are running like E70? Is this how you over came your issue with fueling?
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