Brags

I can honestly say yes, I don't owe any money, I have a completely unique car, and I had a hand in building it. Honesty I wouldn't do it any other way. And if your going big, l61/le5/lsj/lnf it doesn't matter your gonna have to build motor. So if I bought an lsj for 3-5 k more, would still have to build motor, port head, turbo kit ect...

zfissette

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you wouldnt have had to build anything with your power goals. an lsj can make that on a stock motor. it would cost less and youd already have the power you want. so far lsj holds the record by a huge margin. but your right about it being unique, you car definately is that.

kxrida2000

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You may be the dumbest person on the forum...how does psi not matter when i just gave u the model of the Turbo. 25 psi out of that Turbo would make over 400whp I can guarantee that so yes I would run circles around your car. And if u want a ton of power you wouldn't buy a cobalt! If u want cheap power buy a v8 or a Honda its that simple. Buy don't sit here and brag like the lsj is some godly engine when its basically the same ******* thing as the 2.2 except less displacement which in turn would make less power. Have zzp girdle and build a 2.2 or 2.4 and see which one makes more power. O wait!!! Both of them would

zfissette

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neither the 2.2 or 2.4 makes more power. the thing your missing is bore to stroke ratio. Long stroke motors simply can not compete with short stroke as far as power generation. when stroke is lengthened torque increases, horsepower drops. everything from piston velocity to head efficiency is effected by the bore to stroke ratio. The old adage about no replacement for displacement has only held true when comparing motors with similar bore to stroke ratios but different total displacement. case in point a 327 small block to a 396 big block. similar bore to stroke but a significant difference in displacement. now take a 400 truck motor and put it against a corvette 350. literally nothing you do to the tall deck 400 will result in the kind of power the vette 350 puts out. And no, 25 psi doesnt mean anything. until it sits on the dyno or runs the quarter mile there is no way to say how it stacks up the the cobalt ss. atm im pushing 22.5 psi and making 300 hp at the wheels. so your claim that 2.5 psi is worth 100 more horse is laughable. then theres the fact that boost in the manifold isnt reflection of motor power but rather motor restriction. the better the flow numbers of the motor the easier it moves power down stream. take the lnf cars. all you need to do on an lnf is change to tune to get 25 psi with all stock components but that stock lnf will watch my much more powerful lsj walk away from it. its simple, if you want to brag, find a dyno and then hit the track.

Brags

First I don't see you on dyno list, second out alll modded lsj, only 29 have more power than me at the powwe level I have now. So where are your sheets and 1/4 times

kxrida2000

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ok we will play it this way.

1. i have a car now that will walk any car on this site, sorry im not a bragger, but its true

2. if u havent comprehended that i wasnt running 25 psi out of the stock turbo you are just an idiot. (lets try looking up what an s256et turbo is please)

3. Like brags said, please lets see your dyno graphs and slips of jesus' almighty lsj

FasterIsBetter

And your car runs on Opera Winfrey's flatuence!!

kxrida2000

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uhhh ok lol

newt

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Your information here isn't telling the whole story, the reason that effects horsepower is the ability to create power in the high RPM range.

However, this is more affected by the Rod to Stroke ratio, as the rod length will have a direct affect on the piston speed and cylinder side wall loading.

However, this has much more of an effect on N/A cars, to say that a LE5 or L61 can't make the same or more power in a forced induction set-up is false. Due to turbocharging the motor is less effected by this.

So anyways, your logic is slightly flawed.

SlowShifter

I am not sure if this entire statement is directed towards me or not, but for fun's sake I am going to assume it is. And here's exactly why I am not going to do that.

1) It's not even an LT, its a base model LS. No power ANYTHING. Value is somewhere around 3,500 if I'm lucky.

2) I have 3 or 4 payments left. Thats it... I want to stay debt free.

3) Who in the HELL said I was staying N/A... yeah I'm going to tear into a block and worry about doing all this for 180whp

4) It's my car, and I'll do what I want

I don't mean to sound like a douche nozzle, but I HATE hearing these arguements.

zfissette

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brags, my sheets are in the lsj forum and the dyno thread, problem is no one is updating the dyno thread. atm im making 298/264 on a stock block tvs lsj with a gmpp exhaust on pump gas. The 3" exhaust and meth will put me up to 340-350 whp. as for kx, the king of these forums makes 898 whp. in case your not so great with math thats well over 100 more than you claim in your sig. then theres the fact the the lsj motor in full drag prep has put 2k to the ground on nitromethane. but yes. im saying it directly the record for a 2.4, built by the same people who built the 898 2.0 is over 300 whp less. It is what it is, nothing is going to change the reality of bore to stroke ratios. what i want to see is a darton sleeve overbored to 2.1 displacement then destroked with custom rods down to 1.8 final displacement, balance shaft deletes and spun up to 9K+. the lsj head is much larger than any honda head meaning bigger ports and bigger valves for bigger airflow. someone will at some point and we will see a whole new round of lsj records.

newt

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Huh? None of that was true.

zfissette

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none of what was true? the king of these forums is ZZP. their 2.0 car made 898. their 2.4 car didnt even get to 600. my thread about my last hp production is still on the first page of the lsj forums and my previous one from my last m62 pull is on either the last or second to last page of the dyno thread. uncorrected numbers on the m62 were 278 and on the tvs was 298. as for the nitromethane turbo drag cobalt fielded by gm? 2k hp. theres no arguement. its a fwd funny car. ill look up a link and post one up.

zfissette

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heres the link to the cobalt, making 1400 at the wheels from a year or two ago. it runs 7s. no honda has EVER runs sevens. EVER. Not at any money or any level of the sport. walk on that car kx. why are you on the cobalt forums by the way?

1400 horsepower!! Chevy Cobalt vs Racing Plane 300hp - Guess Who's Faster? - DragTimes.com

Leafydialupking

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1400 hp is not 2000 hp, Our ports are tiny, one of our heads ported to the max flows what a factory K head flows, and with kx's numbers he's got the highest non-shop power that I know of.

SlowShifter

Just a pissing contest now.

kxrida2000

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6 second honda - YouTube

S2 King s2000 7.75 @ 175 MPH New Record!!!!! - YouTube


1. there is two right there moron
2nd off i dont think that 1400hp cobalt is here on the forums
3. i love zzp and i love what they do with there company, buttt they may have dynoed more but guess who has the faster 1/4 time (this guy)...my car is rwd theres is not. They also got 100 more hp on 54 psi while i was on 38psi...if i ran 54 psi i could only imagine how much hp id have.
4. im on the forums because im knowledgable and help people and i have a lot of friends that still have cobalts.

your fact that the 2.0 dynoed the most hp is completely ignoring the fact that the same could be done with the other motors.

kxrida2000

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a few others have more than me over on s2ki...they are dyno quees though except boostedf22c over on s2ki.

but yes im up there in power range.

Leafydialupking

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In all fairness, neither of those hondas were fwd, which is what he was referring to.

kxrida2000

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neither is the 1400hp cobalt.....

Leafydialupking

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Then how did it race in a fwd only class?

kxrida2000

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where was that at? ive never really payed attention..either way he said no honda has run 7's and theose were the first 2 i found. I could be wrong about that car not being fwd i just assumed it was. I know brian ballards car is fwd but i didnt think that was his car.

kxrida2000

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Stephanie Eggum Racing Honda Civic Pro FWD - 7.87 @ 184 mph - YouTube

here lol plus shes a chick +1 in my book

im done here! im tired of arguing useless points. none of use will be running 7's so it doesnt matter

Leafydialupking

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Here's 1 article on one of the cars, this isnt the GM one, I found a different one and though that this was interesting. CAR FEATURE>> GARDELLA RACING PRO FWD COBALT - Speedhunters And this is what it would take to run in the 7's.

zfissette

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yes the 1400 whp cobalt is fwd. and no, no one on earth has managed to make as much power on a 2.2 or a 2.4 as they have on the 2.0. zzp tried. they did everything they could think of, all they got for their efforts was failure and public embarassment. and looking up that honda made me laugh. tube frame, carbon fiber body, acura nsx based race motor. literally not a single part of the car was ever made in a honda factory. at least the 7 second cobalt had a chevy 4 cylinder in it and was fwd. they easily could have dropped a buick 6 in a rwd chassis and roflstomped the civic but why would you do that? who cares what a car that doesnt exist runs at the track? that car is not a honda. none of its parts are from a honda, it runs a motor thats never been in any honda ever made and its in a configuration hondas never had. all in all its no more a honda that a kids go kart is a honda. that 7 second cobalt uses a chevy engine in the chevy layout in a car built with with assistance from chevy.