Hey everybody.

I have spent the past few days browsing the site looking for my answers. Most of my questions have been answered, I just have a few more questions that I couldn't find in previous threads.

First of all, the dual CCFL halo projectors that are pretty much everywhere (ebay and other vendors) with the reflector, projector, dual ccfl halo's, and 3 LED's above the lights, come in chrome or black... I've seen a few people who have gotten those in chrome and I'm wondering if the chrome makes the halo's look distorted. The best pic's I've found were from TheCaptain so I'm hoping he reads this, but I couldn't tell from the pics if the halo's get distorted from the chrome.

Next question is when I lived in Vegas I once saw what I believe was a Lexus SC430 with these BEAUTIFUL HID's that had a golden-orange/yellow spectrum looking color to them in the cutoff area of the light. The light itself was very clean looking white light, but the halo around it was a very stunning deep orange/gold color that was almost mezmorizing. I'm wondering if anybody has seen this color of HID before and knows if it is the Lexus OEM for that model or if it is aftermarket; also if anybody knows where to buy those and what color temperature they would be. I have looked at the HID sticky threads and the light whitness itself looks more like a 5000k-6000k range, but the cutoff light is just golden looking; it doesn't look like the picture of the 3300k temperature as the light from that is all yellow.

Last question, does anybody have any pictures of the Cobalt's bi-xenon retrofit's by Izn Trbl (Link) with halo's?

Thanks in advance!

 

there is a pic of the halo's

 

hmm hmm hmm

It looks pretty clean, but my main hold up between the chrome and the black housing is the black housing makes the halo's look much much more clean and isolated; but I think the chrome looks more like the factory lights and looks better when trying to maintain the original look of the car. I'm just concerned the halo's will relect on the chrome (like you can kind of see in that pic) making this weird "movement" in the light instead of the clean halo's.

Thoughts?

 

Also just so you know, those pictured above are the 1st Version, NON CCFL Halo lights.

The 2nd version ARE CFFL.

 

I guess I missed that there were two versions. So they look exactly the same (layout and all) but the halo's on the second version are CCFL as opposed to the first which were LED? Is there a noticable difference in brightness or color?

And I'm still wondering if anybody has any pics of the retrofit style with the halo's, and I'm really really dying to know if anybody has ever seen the style of HID's I mentioned. It was seriously orgasmic seeing that beautiful of a golden color paired with the crystal clear white light. :p

 

No, the halo's don't distort at all.... and this is from seeing TheCaptain's in person.

My retrofit is very close to the kind that Josh @ Izn does. He actually supplied me with my halo's for the job.
I'll PM you a pic.
Keep in mind... mine are chome.

 

no there are actually three versions in which none of them are the same the first gen is the ones that are in the pics the genII are the ccfl and the genIII are kinda like the ccfl.. here's links to all 3.. they are in order from oldest to newest.. they are all offered in black or chrome too..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/05-06...em150213222491
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CCFL-...em170191754619
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/05-06...em300197028474

 

Yeah the 1st gen are the ones I like. I thought you were saying that same layout and design had both an LED and a CCFL halo. I saw the other two generations but think they don't look as sharp as the first gen.

Thanks for all the help so far, now I just need to see if anybody has ever seen those HID's with the golden color in the cutoff.

 

are you sure that was hids you seen with that golden color? the only type hids i've ever seen that was anywhere close to havin a golden color to them at all was the 3000k and thats more of a yellow color and its not just in the cut off.. i know they use to make halogen bulbs that had a gold tint on the bulb itself that made the lights look like they where changin color as you went by it and it seemed like they had that sort of golden tint to the cut off.. i havent seen them type bulbs in a few years though.. it was mostly all the lil ricer cars that had em..

 

Well I'm not totally sure if it was an HID or not, but I saw this Lexus drive by once and then a week later saw another Lexus (both SC430's but different colors, rims, etc) drive by and they both seemed to have the same light. They were both driving towards me so I didn't really have a clear view of the light spread to determine if it was an HID indefinitely, but the light was clear like an HID and seemed to be emitting from round projectors instead of a reflector.

I have looked at those 3300k lighs and its not them because the light from those are so yellowish, this was much more of a clean white light.

I suppose if I can't find anything like it I'll just go with a 5000 or so ranged bulb that will be as close to clear white without any color traces as possible. I'm not interested in a blue color tint, just pure clean light. --That is unless going higher to a 6000 or so gives more visibility. It just seems like most of the things I have read show people going more for a color of the light rather then for bright clean visibility. Is there a temperature which is pretty much agreed upon as the "best" for clarity?

 

I'm unable to help you on the lexus deal, but thanks for my lights being a helping factor. I have a pile of pics of my car with the lights in, and they really have 0 distortion at all. Both beam housings are perfectly the same size. The chrome does have a sweet reflective effect, and is absolutley gorgeous at night. With the lows being outside, and behind of the highs, they reflect some of your headlight directly sideways, lighting up the windows of vehicles your passing.

Here's a few pics, but in the event you want more, i can dig some more up for ya. (I wont be able to take any fresh shots though, i'm 1500 Kms from my car right now.)
And go with the chrome, and you'll love it!

Dusk, park lights on

Cobalts in Heaven

Daytime, no lights

Night, park lights on

Night, park lights on


5000K would be your best bet for a great White with blue tinge, and the best overall output.
6000K would be a close second, but with more of a blue tinge to them. (Its what i have as well)

 

In another thread one person suggested I don't get the halo headlights. They said "eventually the halo's and LED's are going to start flickering and dying out, then you'll just be left with normal headlights". Is this just one person's rogue opinion or have any of you seen this happening?

I think right now I am leaning towards getting the Gen1 ebay projectors with the honda s2000 style HID's, as long as there isn't a lot of negative feedback on the halo's dying out.

 

It all depends on what quality everything is. Some of the leds from these manufactures have been cheap, some are good. Some HID kits are good, some aren't.

It depends a lot on how well you install the lights. If you just hack and solder, you're going to have crappy connections that will corrode right away. Take some time, use some electrical tape and some shrink sleeves, and last but not least, take care.

Bulbs are NOT to be touched by human skin. Wear clean gloves if some reason you have to touch the bulb, but otherwise don't.

I have had a few of my LEDs burn, but its simple to replace them. The LEDs in the halos are more difficult to replace than the ones on top though.

 

im not sure bout the first two types of projectors but the newest ones with the three leds below the lights are a 194 led bulb so they are really easy to replace..

 

Anybody else have any issues with the "gen1 ebay projectors"?

I have received one PM with a pic of a retro similar to the Izn Trbl retro's; but if anybody has any more pics of their mods with Halo's I would love to see them.

I'm still hoping somebody will have seen the kind of HID's I once saw too, white light, orange/gold looking halo and cuttoff line; but not yellow light.

And I have a few new questions now:

1. Aftermarket Fogs? I have a LT Coupe, no fogs. I'm thinking of picking up the Import Trenz JP Vizage body kit (without the headlight covers, just the front, sides, rear, and grill) to give me some fog light openings with a moderate yet snazzy look. I'm just wondering if anybody has any experience hooking up fog lights aftermarket but doing it in a manner that makes it look stock, possibly by picking up the steering column handle for the lights with fog's from Chevy? Would the wiring be complicated?

2. Will the stock wiring hold? I was also wondering with headlight's upgraded to HID's, silverstar or HID fogs (aftermarket), LED tails, and LED 3rd brake light, would it be overtaxing to the factory wiring? In my SRT4 I only replaced the headlights and fogs with silverstars and changed the LED's behind the instrument panel, and changed the LED's behind the center console controls (HVAC), and it was starting to give me electrical issues because it was too much of a drain on the stock electrical system. I ended up having to change the center console lights (HVAC) back to the original ones.

3. Any other pretty HID suggestions? I am starting to think these mystery HID's I saw were either not HID's, were modified, or were so mysterious I may never find them. So, I'm looking for suggestions on any other pretty HID's that, first and foremost, are unsurpassed in light output and clean white light, but are also unique or pretty in some way. In another thread Omega_5 posted a pic of the Honda S2000 OEM HID's, they have such a clean white light with this amazing looking cutoff line, so that is one I've found; but any other ones that any of you might have seen I would love to know about.

Thanks again to everybody who has been helping out so far!

 

Also just saw a post where somebody said the ebay halo projectors said "do not use with HID" on them... why? Has anyone had problems with that? Isn't that the POINT of having a projector housing?

 

the reason for em to say not to use hids in them is the high beam lights.. they are reflectors and it causes a lot of glare.. you can use hids in the projector low beam though.. and i think the golden color you seen on that car is from the projector headlights.. all projectors i've ever seen and a kinda rainbow color spectrum around the cut offs..

 

many people have HIDs in the lowbeams, they are fine.

the reason for the sticker, is that the projectors are actually halogen projectors.
but work ok for HIDS.


Q from above:

the stock wiring will hold up, but i wouldnt recommend it.

Buy a kit that comes with a relay, so the 20,000 volt draw during ignition is drawn directly through a nice low gauge wire direct from the battery.

visionbulbs kits come with one. im sure many others do too.

 

Anybody installed aftermarket fogs on a 'balt originally without them? Is there a way to do it with an oem headlight control post (the one off the steering column)?

 

I would encourage you NOT to buy anything from Izn Trbl because he is trouble.

 

Do these kits fit 9007 bulbs, or do you need to upgrade to something smaller like the H3's?

Also to note, I have an aftermarket HID kit w/ 9007 bulbs right now.