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Old Mar 1, 2014 | 10:44 AM
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Lightbulb Gear Position Indicator

Being an electrical engineer and having my 'balt just come into the "I can do whatever the hell I want to" status, I thought it would be cool do create an LED lighted shifter knob. After doing some research and such, I saw a shifter from a BMW I think that had a seven segment display built into the shifter that displays the gear number. I went "ooooh I could totally build that." So, my question before I go a pure hardware route is, does the ECM or the 5 speed transmission have a position sensor for the 5 speed manual transmission?
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Old Mar 1, 2014 | 10:47 AM
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I dont think theres a position sensor, but it knows what gear youre in based off of speed and rpm
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Old Mar 1, 2014 | 10:49 AM
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Happen to know if that is a reading that can be pulled from the ECM? I haven't been able to find any highly detailed schematics on it.
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Old Mar 1, 2014 | 10:53 AM
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I can try looking at alldata in a bit
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Old Mar 1, 2014 | 01:10 PM
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This is a feature on the rpd in LNF's. And yes from watching it it monitors wheel speed and rpm to determine which gear you're in.
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Old Mar 1, 2014 | 01:26 PM
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Boost by gear on aftermarket boost controllers does the same thing. Learns the gears by wiring in the speed and RPM.
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Old Mar 2, 2014 | 08:01 AM
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So, last night I did some work on the stock shifter playing around and I think I got a good idea going here. I only have one LED embedded right now, but it took me a while to find 5 blue LEDs. I'm going to put a red one under the reverse side.
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First LED embedded.
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Old Mar 2, 2014 | 11:02 AM
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In for results! Nice idea!
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Old Mar 2, 2014 | 11:38 AM
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I think the only way to pull the ECM's gear indication would be via the CAN bus, it's not a pin-out type of output. Only used for transmission calculations and such. I don't see that alone being able to power the light setup you want without some sort of computer handling it.
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Old Mar 2, 2014 | 11:56 AM
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The lsj does not know all gears. It knows 1st and 2-5.
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Old Mar 2, 2014 | 02:01 PM
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if the gear indicator is on the shifter, wouldnt u be looking at the shifter to see what gear your in anyways lol
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Old Mar 2, 2014 | 02:33 PM
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Can't remember who (maybe CAD88 I think) put LEDs before in the shifter pattern.
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Old Mar 2, 2014 | 06:16 PM
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Well, the LEDs in the shifter aren't for me to look at, there it going to be a display in the dash for that. I looked around on the interwebs and didn't find anything either. I have several different microprocessors that I can play around with. Have some more information on that CAN bus?
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Old Mar 2, 2014 | 06:52 PM
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Or you can just get a RPD display like me

But that is a nice touch.. But usually your hand is on the shifter, maybe shifting.. So you wouldn't see it and if you have to look down to see what gear you're in... Then maybe you shouldn't be driving manual. Lol just kidding.

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Old Mar 3, 2014 | 08:39 AM
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Raxiom Mustang Digital Shift Knob - Manual GL-1021 (79-14 All) - Free Shipping

i like this pretty neat
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Old Mar 3, 2014 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe09SS
Or you can just get a RPD display like me

But that is a nice touch.. But usually your hand is on the shifter, maybe shifting.. So you wouldn't see it and if you have to look down to see what gear you're in... Then maybe you shouldn't be driving manual. Lol just kidding.
He can't get an RPD though.

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Old Mar 3, 2014 | 09:30 PM
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Bmartz I have never done such a thing I have LEDs everywhere else tho lol
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Old Mar 3, 2014 | 09:33 PM
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Interesting, hopefully it turns out
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Old Mar 4, 2014 | 09:02 AM
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I like the Mustang idea too. But.... lets just get one thing working at a time :p
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Old Mar 4, 2014 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by C_A_D88
Bmartz I have never done such a thing I have LEDs everywhere else tho lol
I guess I'm thinking of somebody else then lol
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Old Mar 7, 2014 | 12:48 AM
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Update, work on this is slow because of other projects and work.
I am going to hide all the wiring through the shifter knob and boot.
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