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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 11:36 AM
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so. i put a set of 4300k hid's in the car last night.

low beams. less than steller outcome. looks like the stock bulbs. high beams. do the usual flicker when warming up and blamo. the beam of god.

now. i was under the impression the low beams were supposed to be the hid, and the high beam were supposed to be the halogen, general light stuff.

i didn't put the harness inline with the kit. i just did the plug and play deal. is it because of the lower voltage on the low beam side going through the factory harness that it isn't getting enough voltage to kick it over?

so far. im really not digging this mod. if it is something with the kit itself, im ripping it back out and selling it. if it is something i did by not installing the additional harness then i'll do that.

lack luster results from vendor are not helping me either.....
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 11:37 AM
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There should be definately some kind of voltage step up in there. I find it hard to believe these HIDs run on stock voltage.
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 11:40 AM
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There should be definately some kind of voltage step up in there. I find it hard to believe these HIDs run on stock voltage.
thats not that hard to believe..i did a plug and play kit in my civic which is a 95 and it has high and low beams for hids 8k with no problems...

i havent experianced "plug and play" for the cobalt bryan but if ur referring to u plug the hid kit into the harness coming from the stock head light wiring thats what my plug and play kit did and had no problems
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 11:41 AM
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Thats what I mean, there should be some kind of little converter box that you inline.
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by lewisb13
Thats what I mean, there should be some kind of little converter box that you inline.
Its a ballast, Igniter
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 11:44 AM
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oh yea..its like this..bulb goes in headlight...wires from headlight to box from box to stock headlight wiring and boom..ur converted
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 11:45 AM
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oh yea..its like this..bulb goes in headlight...wires from headlight to box from box to stock headlight wiring and boom..ur converted
QFT
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 11:45 AM
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the balast. the bulbs. it plugs into the stock headlight harness. the one that goes on the bulbs. then everything wires into the balast box itself.

plug n play.
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 11:47 AM
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4300K i cant remember, is that really blue or really white? The bluer you go the lumens decrease. How many lumens is your kit?
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 11:49 AM
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4300 is a stock lexas/bmw/high end hid..and 6k is the "whitest" the rest are blue..until like 12k then it becomes a purplish then pink after 20k iirc

and below 4300 is going towards yellow..
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 11:49 AM
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4300k is white, its actually on the verge of having yellow

3000k is yello
6000k has blue hint
8000k is blue
1000k and up you start going purple and so on
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 11:51 AM
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4300 is actually the brightest ones.

lumens has nothing to do with it. hids need to be warmed up. not just kick on and go. which is what the low beams are doing.
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 11:51 AM
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the reason the bmw, lexus and such look purple or blue is because of the lens in the projector and the cut off line, Im sure youve noticed they only look purple or blue from certain angles and others they are white or kinda like a halogen, just way brighter
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 11:52 AM
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4300K is in the range for the highest output per watt. 4300K is almost white with a trace of yellow hue.
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Area47
4300 is actually the brightest ones.

lumens has nothing to do with it. hids need to be warmed up. not just kick on and go. which is what the low beams are doing.
correct, should only be 10 sec or so till fully warm
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Area47
4300 is actually the brightest ones.

lumens has nothing to do with it. hids need to be warmed up. not just kick on and go. which is what the low beams are doing.
I thought your question was why arent they that bright. And I was just saying ok whats the light output supposed to be? Maybe they arent rated for that?
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 11:55 AM
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i thought the question was if they were wired up right?!
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 11:56 AM
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Area. If you are asking why its not switching to high beam right and it is flickering. Here are my questions. Is this a bi-xenon kit in the stock housing, only 1 blub. Or did you put two hid kits in the projector housings, 1 kit high and one kit low.

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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Area47
so. i put a set of 4300k hid's in the car last night.

low beams. less than steller outcome. looks like the stock bulbs. high beams. do the usual flicker when warming up and blamo. the beam of god.

now. i was under the impression the low beams were supposed to be the hid, and the high beam were supposed to be the halogen, general light stuff.

i didn't put the harness inline with the kit. i just did the plug and play deal. is it because of the lower voltage on the low beam side going through the factory harness that it isn't getting enough voltage to kick it over?

so far. im really not digging this mod. if it is something with the kit itself, im ripping it back out and selling it. if it is something i did by not installing the additional harness then i'll do that.

lack luster results from vendor are not helping me either.....
You are correct in assuming that the low beams are supposed to be the HID and the high beams should be halogen. HIDS do not take kindly to being cycled on and off like you would normally do with a high beam. I am guessing that your kit has some wires (low / high beam) put in back-asswards in the harness (if it is plug and play).
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 11:59 AM
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ok kids. the low beams just kick on like your normal lights do. none hid's. the high beams don't they warm up and get happy. so, go outside and flip on your parking lights. see how fast they light up? yea, thats what the low beams do.

so far im not real thrilled about pissing money away. operatic is the vendor on here i got them through via 3b spec.

no answers to anything i have asked either.
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 12:01 PM
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ok kids. the low beams just kick on like your normal lights do. none hid's. the high beams don't they warm up and get happy. so, go outside and flip on your parking lights. see how fast they light up? yea, thats what the low beams do.

so far im not real thrilled about pissing money away. operatic is the vendor on here i got them through via 3b spec.

no answers to anything i have asked either.

there is your problem. Those kits are horrible. We ordered one to try them and they are some of the worst wquality Ive ever seen.

Its sounds like wires are crossed but I need to know if this is a bi-xenon kit, so 1 blub to take care of hi and low beam or if you have a single beam kit on the 9007 setup
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Pully Police
You are correct in assuming that the low beams are supposed to be the HID and the high beams should be halogen. HIDS do not take kindly to being cycled on and off like you would normally do with a high beam. I am guessing that your kit has some wires (low / high beam) put in back-asswards in the harness (if it is plug and play).
the only logical reply so far.

no offense to anyone else.


now. there isn't a way to wire this in backwards. which is what is fuckered up.
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Originally Posted by Area47
ok kids. the low beams just kick on like your normal lights do. none hid's. the high beams don't they warm up and get happy. so, go outside and flip on your parking lights. see how fast they light up? yea, thats what the low beams do.

so far im not real thrilled about pissing money away. operatic is the vendor on here i got them through via 3b spec.

no answers to anything i have asked either.
Has to be an improperly configured harness. The lows should be HID and take a few seconds to warm up. the highs should be instant and halogens.

Send it back or ask for a replacement ballast with the proper harness
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 12:03 PM
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the only logical reply so far.

no offense to anyone else.


now. there isn't a way to wire this in backwards. which is what is fuckered up.
ILL tell you the answer if you would answer my question already
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by BOOSSTED 06
there is your problem. Those kits are horrible. We ordered one to try them and they are some of the worst wquality Ive ever seen.

Its sounds like wires are crossed but I need to know if this is a bi-xenon kit, so 1 blub to take care of hi and low beam or if you have a single beam kit on the 9007 setup
it's a high and low beam in one bulb set up. actually it's two seperate bulbs on one pedistal.
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