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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Mercury
I only spent 350 dollars total for my HID retrofit on my old cougar.
Were you able to take that HID retrofit and put it in your new car?
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Uneek
Were you able to take that HID retrofit and put it in your new car?
I could have if I wanted to, but in my cougar I had single xenon projectors because my cougar had highbeam halogen projectors as well. Since the cobalt only has one bulb, I am going to need a bixenon projector.
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Uneek
Were you able to take that HID retrofit and put it in your new car?
It's not about adaptability, you must understand. It's about better lighting. You can always remove the projectors and use them in a different car sure, along with the ballasts, etc.

Also, what if you bought a car that wasn't the same bulb type. You couldn't use your plug 'n play kit either. Example. You bought a 9006 kit, and when you sold your car, you bought a car with 9007 bulbs. Your kit is just as swappable as a retrofit.

Uneek, you still haven't answered my question from my previous post. How easy is it to buy replacement bulbs that are rebased? How about ballasts? Where can you buy them from? And at what cost?

Bottom line is for those that want good lighting, stick to halogens and upgrade to silverstars. HID kits are **** no matter how you look at it. Sure they're brighter, but eventually something in the kit will crap out that cannot be replaced easily and cheap. Also, for the damage it does to your stock wiring, it ain't worth it. Stick with what you got from the factory, or upgrade appropriately (read retrofit).

You get what you pay for. For those that say they would have just bought a higher class car for true HIDs, well that isn't always an option for most people, or else they would have not purchased economy cars in the first place.
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by saturnd00d

Also, what if you bought a car that wasn't the same bulb type. You couldn't use your plug 'n play kit either. Example. You bought a 9006 kit, and when you sold your car, you bought a car with 9007 bulbs. Your kit is just as swappable as a retrofit.
You'd just have to buy new HID bulbs for your new application. Which run about $100 for the pair.

Originally Posted by saturnd00d
Also, for the damage it does to your stock wiring, it ain't worth it.
If a customer is worried about their stock wiring harness not being up to the task, they can simply add on a $30 relay harness that powers the HIDs directly from the battery. But again, where are you getting this information from? Who says that aftermarket HIDs mess up your stock wiring harness? Why would people continue to buy aftermarket HID kits if this was a fact?
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 03:38 PM
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I really don't like arguing with people about HID's it gives me a headache.

BUT, something that saturnd00d mentioned reminded me of something. OEM parts were made to last long, (IE OEM ballasts, OEM XENON BULBS) Plus they have model numbers that can easily be found and identified.

Uneek, I have nothing against you or your company. I am simply just saying what I think.
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 07:59 PM
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[QUOTE=Mercury]OEM parts were made to last longQUOTE]


Thats a good one.
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 08:40 PM
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Well lets just say I have heard of people with aftermarket HID kits having ballast and bulbs blowing out lots more than people with ballasts such as phillips, hella, bosch, etc...

Xenon parts from the dealer are well over 1,000 dollars. where as Xenon HID kits from the internet are around 300 dollars....
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Old Oct 30, 2005 | 01:01 PM
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I personaly am sick of people placing HID setups in there stock housing.....that glare is so anoying and defeats the purpouse of HID lights!
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Old Oct 30, 2005 | 01:33 PM
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any word on the price for the cutoms?
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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by importkiller
I personaly am sick of people placing HID setups in there stock housing.....that glare is so anoying and defeats the purpouse of HID lights!
you could always paint the inside of the housing and then the glare is gone.
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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by player_1
you could always paint the inside of the housing and then the glare is gone.
And so is your lighting, that is if your using an HID kit in your stock reflector housings.
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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Uneek
You'd just have to buy new HID bulbs for your new application. Which run about $100 for the pair.
Yeah except that new HID bulbs are meant for projectors. The bulbs would have to be rebased to comply with your reflector housing.

Originally Posted by Uneek
If a customer is worried about their stock wiring harness not being up to the task, they can simply add on a $30 relay harness that powers the HIDs directly from the battery.
So now your getting into a more involved process. Wouldn't you be saying at this point that this step is not necessary since it's a simple plug 'n play setup? HIDs fire up at startup with a load that the stock wiring wasn't meant to handle in the first place, but after warming temps drop down to consume less than halogens. That initial startup draw from the electrical system is not good for one's stock wiring, which WILL EVENTUALLY crew up your wiring, and possibly lead back to the PCM. Who would want to risk that I don't know.

Originally Posted by Uneek
But again, where are you getting this information from? Who says that aftermarket HIDs mess up your stock wiring harness?
http://www.hidplanet.com by members who have actually used HID kits, and eventually saw how crappy they are. After retrofitting, they see that the difference is night and day compared to HID kits. These people can back themselves up with facts, not speculations.

Originally Posted by Uneek
Why would people continue to buy aftermarket HID kits if this was a fact?
Alot of people are simply misinformed, or want to go the cheap route. And yes, it is the cheap route. HID lighting may look good even with a kit in a stock halogen reflector, but lets not kid ourselves, they simply do not measure up to real HID setups. Show me proof because I want to see it.

Uneek, it may sound like I'm being harsh, and maybe I am. I'll tell you the reason. It's one thing to sell your kits clearly stating these are a cheap alternative to real HID setups and mention that they aren't as effective and could possibly damage the stock wiring (basically let people know there are risks involved). It's another to make people believe that they are just as good, at a fraction of the price, with all components available as replacements too and no downsides to the kit at all. I find that false advertising. Then again, your simply doing what all other kit resellers are doing too, nothing different.

Hey I got an idea. Those of you who bought an HID kit (either from Uneek or otherwise). Compare your kit side-by-side with an Acura TSX, Nissan Maxima, Honda S2k, Any Mercedes or another car with true projector-based setups or even non-projector based setups like the G35. Compare how good your lighting is to any of these cars, and you'll **** yourself.
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