HID worth it or not
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Originally Posted by 06black
**** merc your hid retro fit is sick and all but dam bud! my 6000k kit puts out a **** load of light...buddy of mine with a CTS-V has the OEM HID's in it and when we cruze down the road not only do my lights look like a "brighter white" color but they go down the road the same distance to me and him. we've never seen any part of road were his lights seem to go father then mine and mine look a hell of a lot better to our eyes becasue its a "brighter white" color..
you retro fit is still the best way to go as far as geting the cut off beam and such.
you retro fit is still the best way to go as far as geting the cut off beam and such.
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Originally Posted by VisionBulbs
We basically try to offer a full range of products to cover every type of enthusiast.
Most people like the lower color temperatures such as our 4300K and 6000K, but we also get a great number of people that go for the higher temperatures that set their vehicle apart from most cars on the road.
Our higher color temperatures do not have a great difference in light output. We've designed them to output the maximum amount of lumens, and they do shine extremely bright.
You'll notice a lot of the newer models of BMW, Audi, Saab, etc., using higher temperature lighting. This is because newer generation HIDs have improved the light output of higher temperatures.
When higher color temperatures were first introduced, they were working at ridiculous rates of -1500Lm or worse.
To cut to the chase, there have been a lot of improvements to higher temperature lighting, and there is no need to worry that by choosing a higher temperature that you will be compromising the light output.
Thanks again
Most people like the lower color temperatures such as our 4300K and 6000K, but we also get a great number of people that go for the higher temperatures that set their vehicle apart from most cars on the road.
Our higher color temperatures do not have a great difference in light output. We've designed them to output the maximum amount of lumens, and they do shine extremely bright.
You'll notice a lot of the newer models of BMW, Audi, Saab, etc., using higher temperature lighting. This is because newer generation HIDs have improved the light output of higher temperatures.
When higher color temperatures were first introduced, they were working at ridiculous rates of -1500Lm or worse.
To cut to the chase, there have been a lot of improvements to higher temperature lighting, and there is no need to worry that by choosing a higher temperature that you will be compromising the light output.
Thanks again
And the only way anyone will ever prove to me that their plug n play HID kit is better than stock in a halogen reflector is have an Isocandela plot. And this will have to done for every different car model since every model today has free form reflector designed for just one bulb type. I need to isocandelas and bird's eye isocandelas for right and left hand and low and high beam. If they are the same as stock (which I have yet to see), then and only then is it safe to put a plug n play kit into a halogen reflector.
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Originally Posted by Uneek
I don't recommend getting any aftermarket HID kit with a Kelvin rating lower 6000K. Anything below that is just too bright for oncoming traffic in my opinion.
1. That higher temperature colors have less luminous output.
2. Plug n play kits produce glare.
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Can someone post pics of HID's in reflector housings, the D2R version, cause i dont have projectors in my cavy so id need to buy the D2R's..8000K probably..or 6000K..pics of both would be appreciated
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If your interested in buying an HID kit... GO FOR IT.....I just got my headlight and foglight HID kits from Vision Bulbs and i absolutely love em. I"m going to take some pics. tonight and i'll try and post them up here so you guys can see them since all the pics i've seen are from the Halo kits. But i would do it all over again but only i would do it sooner. I couldn't be any more happier with them at all. Yes there is some slight glare above the cut off but thats inevitable. Good luck to making a decision on HID's but if i was in the market vision bulbs has great kits.
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Originally Posted by SStud
If your interested in buying an HID kit... GO FOR IT.....I just got my headlight and foglight HID kits from Vision Bulbs and i absolutely love em. I"m going to take some pics. tonight and i'll try and post them up here so you guys can see them since all the pics i've seen are from the Halo kits. But i would do it all over again but only i would do it sooner. I couldn't be any more happier with them at all. Yes there is some slight glare above the cut off but thats inevitable. Good luck to making a decision on HID's but if i was in the market vision bulbs has great kits.
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Originally Posted by drocher
i just want the bluest light i can get..and i dont have projectors so id need the D2R's correct? and will i need different fog housings?
As for the light size, you would have to check to see what your vehicle is currently using.
Thanks in advance
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From: Wilmington, DE
Originally Posted by drocher
i know it's 9007's but dont i need the D2R's for my reflector housings?
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Originally Posted by drocher
so how do i get HID's without projectors cause projectors are mad expensive
The best thing you can do is stick with the headlamps that the manufacturer gave you. They are legal and safe. The only way to "upgrade" your lamps is to put the same type of bulb as the stock bulb in but overwattaged. Things like Silverstars, etc.... BUT these have much lower lifetimes than your stock bulbs.
Read any one of the other threads on HID to see testimony of how dangerous putting an HID kit in your reflector is.
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Mercury will testify to projectors not being as expensive as everyone thinks. BUT, the tradeoff is time and skill.
The best thing you can do is stick with the headlamps that the manufacturer gave you. They are legal and safe. The only way to "upgrade" your lamps is to put the same type of bulb as the stock bulb in but overwattaged. Things like Silverstars, etc.... BUT these have much lower lifetimes than your stock bulbs.
Read any one of the other threads on HID to see testimony of how dangerous putting an HID kit in your reflector is.
The best thing you can do is stick with the headlamps that the manufacturer gave you. They are legal and safe. The only way to "upgrade" your lamps is to put the same type of bulb as the stock bulb in but overwattaged. Things like Silverstars, etc.... BUT these have much lower lifetimes than your stock bulbs.
Read any one of the other threads on HID to see testimony of how dangerous putting an HID kit in your reflector is.
I am waiting for a set of NOKYA 7000K replacement bulbs to arrive and was wondering if the factory harness will handle the wattage difference of these bulbs compared to factory bulbs. The wattage for these is 100w/80w.
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to be honest I didnt know alot about HIDs, so when i decided i wanted to get some I started doing research on them. how they work. whats legal, whats illegal and why.
Basically HID lighting is not illegal, but there are some very big IF's involved.
First off, to truely be LEGAL they basically have to be standard equipment on your vehicle.
but there are a few things you can do to have them, while still technically not legal....and NOT get into trouble with them.
HIDs are NOT intended for Halogen reflector housing.
As you can see plainly from pics of people who have put HIDs in stock housing....the glare is horrible.
that glare is what blinds people on the roads, and causes people to complain (by the 10s of thousands) to the department of transport, and what causes police to pull people over.
HIDs output alot of light, and to use them safely so you get the advantage of the better lighting, but to be SAFE on the road and not blind your fellow motorists.....you need other equipment aside from just the HIDs.
There are alot of ways to do it....alot of ways that I didnt research.....but one of the easiest ways to run HIDs in a much safer way is to use Projector headlights, instead of Reflector.
If youve ever seen a picture of the "cutoff" that projector lights have....you will very soon understand why.
Personally, I think that if you feel the urge to do the right thing and not blind your fellow motorists....i would suggest putting some time into researching HIDs and different forms of headlights.
Basically HID lighting is not illegal, but there are some very big IF's involved.
First off, to truely be LEGAL they basically have to be standard equipment on your vehicle.
but there are a few things you can do to have them, while still technically not legal....and NOT get into trouble with them.
HIDs are NOT intended for Halogen reflector housing.
As you can see plainly from pics of people who have put HIDs in stock housing....the glare is horrible.
that glare is what blinds people on the roads, and causes people to complain (by the 10s of thousands) to the department of transport, and what causes police to pull people over.
HIDs output alot of light, and to use them safely so you get the advantage of the better lighting, but to be SAFE on the road and not blind your fellow motorists.....you need other equipment aside from just the HIDs.
There are alot of ways to do it....alot of ways that I didnt research.....but one of the easiest ways to run HIDs in a much safer way is to use Projector headlights, instead of Reflector.
If youve ever seen a picture of the "cutoff" that projector lights have....you will very soon understand why.
Personally, I think that if you feel the urge to do the right thing and not blind your fellow motorists....i would suggest putting some time into researching HIDs and different forms of headlights.
Look Mercury!!! Look! People are catching on!
It doesn't take long after a little research to find out how hard or should I say easy it is to custom fab some HIDs into the headlights... It takes a little brain power and patience, that's about it.
It doesn't take long after a little research to find out how hard or should I say easy it is to custom fab some HIDs into the headlights... It takes a little brain power and patience, that's about it.