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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 11:02 PM
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Sts + momo?

I have a Hurst Short Throw and was wondering if any MOMO shift knobs will fit? I'm pretty sure the answer is no because of the reverse lockout but I just wanted to ask.
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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 11:06 PM
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Not 100% sure about the Hurst sts. But I have a Momo knob on my B&M with the reverse lockout, so I don't see why not. Just search, they sell most styles of their knobs in standard, or reverse lock-out.

I'll dig up some pics of my set-up



Mounted on the B&M sts, sat too high for my liking, soo



I got medieval, and trimmed the B&M by this much (lemme know if you have questions, I shortened the main shaft by a similar amount) and the reverse lockout still works, but it's well concealed



voila, much better





Should be the same deal for the Hurst, or any other sts

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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 11:29 PM
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See I've heard of people having the MOMO knobs but I thought I read somewhere that the Hurst couldn't take a different knob and now I can't find where I read that and I couldn't remember the reason why. This was also like 2 years ago so maybe they came out with something since then.
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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 07ss_PJ
See I've heard of people having the MOMO knobs but I thought I read somewhere that the Hurst couldn't take a different knob and now I can't find where I read that and I couldn't remember the reason why. This was also like 2 years ago so maybe they came out with something since then.
Anything can be made to fit. I've never seen the hurst up close though.

Just need to see some pics and we'll get it figured out for ya. If you can get the knob that it comes with taken off, snap some pics for me and I'll tell ya what you have to do. I can pull my Momo off, and take some measurements on it and my B&M. where there's a will there's a way
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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 11:38 PM
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That's the exact one I wanna get. Great look! Gives me a preview of what mine will look like. What did you use to cut it with?
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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 07ss_PJ
That's the exact one I wanna get. Great look! Gives me a preview of what mine will look like. What did you use to cut it with?
It's been a while I honestly don't remember if I used a hack saw or dremel with a cut off disk. Either way would work though. For the outer collar (the reverse lockout part) if you cant remove the pin that holds it to the main shaft, you just hafta take your time and make sure you don't cut the main shaft,

Cut the outer shaft first, then measure the amount you removed, and cut the same amount from the main shaft. Toss the shift knob back on and you're golden,

Again though, you don't hafta cut it, the knob will fit as-is. But I wanted mine to sit on top of the boot. Just make sure the knob you buy is a reverse lock-out specific one.

EDIT: just dug up some pics of the Hurst, I see no reason why the same thing I did wouldn't work for you



looks like the mechanisms are all the same, so you should be good to go with the same process I outlined for mine. I don't see a spring on this pic, so I don't know how the reverse lockout works on the Hurst though. On my B&M, there is a spring that sits on top of reverse lock-out collar, under the shift knob, so the lock-out pops back down after you lift it up.

the only other issue you may have (if you cut the overall length down) would be if the inner shaft diameter is too large to fit into the new knob (hard to tell from looking) but even if it is, you could just remove a bit of material with a dremel until the new knob presses on.

Lemme know if you have any questions at all
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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 11:50 PM
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I just asked because I'd like the shifter to sit a little lower as well. Yours looks very nice!
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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 11:55 PM
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Efff cutting the shifter.

TWM shifter ftw!

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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Cobaltssdudee
Efff cutting the shifter.

TWM shifter ftw!

your logic?

If I owned that sts, I would have cut it down for the exact same reason.

The short throw part is what occurs below the boot. from the pivot point up is essentially cosmetic. All the magic is in the lower workings.

None of them sit much lower than the stock shifter (if at all), so no matter what brand I bought (Hurst, B&M, TWM, etc) I would have cut it down so that it sat flush on top of the shift boot, that's what I wanted.

I went with B&M, because of their reputation, and they had the most significant reduction if shift throw from what I had read. I'm happy with it, the build quality is top notch. That and the Hurst wasn't available when I bought mine.

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I just asked because I'd like the shifter to sit a little lower as well. Yours looks very nice!
Thank you, and DO IT and never look back.

You wont be disappointed. And you'll be able to use your cup holders with cups in them, lol. At stock height I was always smashing into beverages.

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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 12:09 AM
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Logic?

Well, my reasons.
MY reasons.

1. Looks nicer.
2. Also had great rep.
3. I am 100% happy with it.

I mod my car to look nice, and a shifter that small looks bad IMO.
Plus, the revese lock out is important to me.
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 12:11 AM
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^^ Yes! Very annoying. I always use the back ones. lol
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Cobaltssdudee
Logic?

Well, my reasons.
MY reasons.

1. Looks nicer.
2. Also had great rep.
3. I am 100% happy with it.

I mod my car to look nice, and a shifter that small looks bad IMO.
Plus, the revese lock out is important to me.
1) rearry? I beg to differ, I think that knob looks like poo, and much prefer mine or even stock, but hey to each his own
2) me too, but B&M > TWM in my honest opinion
3) me too

My reverse lockout still works, and as a bonus it's hidden beneath the boot.

How do you like your stock height sts when you have cups in your cup holders? And don't give me that "I don't allow any in my car" it's just a cobalt, and I'm sure your girl, or friends (if applicable) are getting sick of having to hold their cups on the way back from Taco Bell/McD's etc.

function & form = win win
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by SS33
looks nicer? rearry?
It is IMO.

Why dont you go cut you rims down a size?
They look a little big..


I also like expensive things..
Dont own a hacksaw, and would never touch my car with it even if i did. LOL.
So TWM.. was for me.
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by 07ss_PJ
^^ Yes! Very annoying. I always use the back ones. lol
yeah, impending fail when your elbow smacks one on a shift, lol.

I <3 my "short" sts and the ability to use my cupholders.
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 12:22 AM
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On another note. My least favorite thing on the car is the cupholders.
Actually, besides being fwd, its the only thing I hate about the car.
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Cobaltssdudee
It is IMO.

Why dont you go cut you rims down a size?
They look a little big..


I also like expensive things..
Dont own a hacksaw, and would never touch my car with it even if i did. LOL.
So TWM.. was for me.
don't clown yourself son.

I also like expensive things, like your Dual subs

here's my "cheap" interior.







I do own a hacksaw, and just about every other tool required to do almost any job you could think of on MY car/house/etc. You probably still live with your parents and are one of those punk kids who doesn't know how to get his hands dirty. I take pride in doing things myself rather than paying someone else to do it.

Judging by this thread or this one you shouldn't be working on cars. Do yourself a favor and don't embarrass yourself any further, friendo.

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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 12:36 AM
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^^ i own the twm and i agree with you SS33... I actually want to make my twm shorter like yours... i got my twm knob custom powdercoated "silver leaf" to make it follow my interior better, but i REALLLY REALLY wanna make it even shorter in height. If i sent you pics and a layout, do you wanna maybe give me a walkthrough on the process i would do.. The twm setup is alot different, and my head hurts when i try to figure out how to shorten it with the reverse lockout still there
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ddsscobalt
^^ i own the twm and i agree with you SS33... I actually want to make my twm shorter like yours... i got my twm knob custom powdercoated "silver leaf" to make it follow my interior better, but i REALLLY REALLY wanna make it even shorter in height. If i sent you pics and a layout, do you wanna maybe give me a walkthrough on the process i would do.. The twm setup is alot different, and my head hurts when i try to figure out how to shorten it with the reverse lockout still there
Certainly, post up some pics, and I'll let ya know. I haven't seen the TWM up close either, but I'd be willing to bet there's a way.

And it just might involve a *gasp* hacksaw





OP - Sorry for the mini-rant up above, but something about the way Cobaltssdude came across just really irked me, lol
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 12:42 AM
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im like you. Id rather customize it to how i want it. Im a young man (20), and i dont mind getting down and dirty for this bad boy haha.. Ill load some pics up tomorrow and pm you.
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 01:34 AM
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I dont have Dual subs? I have infinity?
I have a cardomain to proove that.

Everyone is going to see things different.

Bottom line, You dont like my car, and I dont like yours.

Thats what makes the world go round.

Back to the OPs question.

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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 11:24 AM
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SS33...did you get the c/f vinyl off ebay? I saw that the other day but I'm really hesistant about it.
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 11:32 AM
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personally.. I would love the TWM but to have it sit as low as SS33s.. lovin it.

and also me myself, not so much a fan of the momo shift knob.. so there ya go.. took from both ss33 and cobaltssdudee.

weeee
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 01:43 PM
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SS33...did you get the c/f vinyl off ebay? I saw that the other day but I'm really hesistant about it.
Nope, that's the real deal, hand laid 5.7oz Carbon Fiber 2x2 twill



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personally.. I would love the TWM but to have it sit as low as SS33s.. lovin it.

and also me myself, not so much a fan of the momo shift knob.. so there ya go.. took from both ss33 and cobaltssdudee.

weeee
I can respect that. And that was my whole point from the get go, until cobalssdude pissed me off and I went on rant, lol.

Shorter shifter = win IMO

I was never trying to to say the Momo knob was better than anything else, it's just what I bought because it matched the pedals and floor plates that I wanted. I actually prefer the look and feel of the stock shift knob to anything else I've seen put in Cobalt yet. Kinda wish I wouldn't have sold mine. But I'm still happy with the way my set-up looks.

If anyone can get some pics of the TWM set-up with the knob/and boot off I'll let you guys know what I see.
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Nope, that's the real deal, hand laid 5.7oz Carbon Fiber 2x2 twill

oohhh...that looks tasty!! if possible could you PM me with any special details on how you did that and where you got your CF from? I would assume it's just adhesive but I dunno
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Originally Posted by SS33
Nope, that's the real deal, hand laid 5.7oz Carbon Fiber 2x2 twill





I can respect that. And that was my whole point from the get go, until cobalssdude pissed me off and I went on rant, lol.

Shorter shifter = win IMO

I was never trying to to say the Momo knob was better than anything else, it's just what I bought because it matched the pedals and floor plates that I wanted. I actually prefer the look and feel of the stock shift knob to anything else I've seen put in Cobalt yet. Kinda wish I wouldn't have sold mine. But I'm still happy with the way my set-up looks.

If anyone can get some pics of the TWM set-up with the knob/and boot off I'll let you guys know what I see.
yeh.. also id prolly go with TWM over B&M just for the included shift knob.. otherwise yeh id be going B&M...

im still undecided on what to get because of being intimidated by the work necessary to do it.. that and the 200-250 price tag. lol
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