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Old Jul 23, 2009 | 09:28 PM
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http://www.ctbrakes.com/pads/chevy.html <--- isn't that CT1379 for the brembos?
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Old Jul 24, 2009 | 05:18 AM
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http://www.ctbrakes.com/pads/chevy.html <--- isn't that CT1379 for the brembos?
That is for the Supercharched Cobalts.
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Old Jul 24, 2009 | 07:32 AM
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If you are looking for a wide variety of performance brake pads, contact Danny Puskar at CarboTech (www.CTBrakes.com). They offer everything from high performance street pads to full on race pads.

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Old Jul 24, 2009 | 09:37 PM
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OH I see It says SS turbo but is the same part # as the supercharged ones. Glad I didn't order yet. Think I'll wait on the floating rotors from ottp before I get pads.
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Old Jul 26, 2009 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Feffman
If you are looking for a wide variety of performance brake pads, contact Danny Puskar at CarboTech (www.CTBrakes.com). They offer everything from high performance street pads to full on race pads.

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Old Jul 26, 2009 | 11:26 AM
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Either Carbotechsa or Pagids I cant remember, the Grand Am Cup cars used Pagids, and the Koni Challenege cars run Cobalts.
Time attack used pagids. ON TC, Hard to beat the Ferodo stock TC pad on 4 piston Bremob's just add floating 28mm rotors and brake cooling....OTTP
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 04:49 PM
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If your braking came back, that's my interpretation. If it didn't come back 100% after a cool-down period, I'd say check fluid level and clarity and start hunting for leaks. I lost all pressure once after a full day. Turns out when I checked the fluid in the AM inspection, I didn't tighten the cap completely and fluid had been leaking out all day.

But if visual inspection of rotors and pads is okay, mechanical inspection is everything is to spec (caliper doesn't shake or shim, still have proper clearance and clamping force), and after cool down, you've returned to normal performance, you should be good.
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That has happened to me a couple times!
Your pad went past it's designed heat range. Time to upgrade to a track only pad my friend. Or limit yourself to 3 hot laps at a time followed by a cooldown lap.
Make sure to inspect your pads for any kind of "flaking" or seperation of pad material and the backing plate. And bleed the fluid in the calipers before your next session.
yes yes! Track pads are on the list. Thanks guys.
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by venom09
Sent of an e mail, waiting for a reply.
Any word yet?
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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 01:54 AM
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Any word yet?
No
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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by qwikredline
Time attack used pagids. ON TC, Hard to beat the Ferodo stock TC pad on 4 piston Bremob's just add floating 28mm rotors and brake cooling....OTTP
You are saying the stock TC/SS pad is good? yes on street they are fine but on the track...you need a track pad.

Venom let us know if you get a reply!
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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 12:57 PM
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You are saying the stock TC/SS pad is good? yes on street they are fine but on the track...you need a track pad.

Venom let us know if you get a reply!
I disagree, they work very well.

I have not had a single issue with my brakes yet other than my pads getting worn.

I know Venom is a lot harder than I on brakes, but for most people the stock pads perform quite admirably.

Hence why I ordered a set of stock pads for replacement.
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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 11:23 PM
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Good call.
The stock pads are better than HPS.
I was hoping to get some GS5's from Satisfied Motorsports - that is what I use on my Cobra for the street - but they do not have any for the SS/TC yet.
Still waiting for feedback from Carbotech. XP8 or XP10??
If I do not hear anything by the weekend I am ordering the stock pads.
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by venom09
Good call.
The stock pads are better than HPS.
I was hoping to get some GS5's from Satisfied Motorsports - that is what I use on my Cobra for the street - but they do not have any for the SS/TC yet.
Still waiting for feedback from Carbotech. XP8 or XP10??
If I do not hear anything by the weekend I am ordering the stock pads.
right on. I have a set of 315 x 28 floating rotors compared to non floating 315 x 26 mm, deeper slots, thicker cheeks.

Northvibe I am on the track every week with these brakes ( ya its on a Redline and its lighter but what the heck?) but I can tell you the stock ferodo on brembos are awesome...OGC I have watched track side he does a heck of a driving job and mark Wilkins of AIM Daytona Prototype fame has driven OGC's car, so not an ez life. Stock pads are fine. If you really want to extend pad life , you can buy some brake cooling ducts from me I should have them made in a couple of week, got the blanks made and ready for welding just need time to gitter dun....
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 05:33 PM
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I wasnt saying the stock pads were bad. I just was thinking that pads made for heavy track/braking would be better. But the options for the SS are pretty weak
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by venom09
That has happened to me a couple times!
Your pad went past it's designed heat range. Time to upgrade to a track only pad my friend. Or limit yourself to 3 hot laps at a time followed by a cooldown lap.
Make sure to inspect your pads for any kind of "flaking" or seperation of pad material and the backing plate. And bleed the fluid in the calipers before your next session.
On the autocross course, we've had some issues with that as well. Found out that the ABS DOES NOT like it when you lift the inside rear under braking (Not sure where the nickname came from, but we call it "ice mode").

Symptoms:
-Hard pedal
-No braking (very little)
-Brakes will often come back on the very next braking zone
-few if any physical symptoms of overheating (flaking, bluing, strong odor)
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 08:41 PM
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On the autocross course, we've had some issues with that as well. Found out that the ABS DOES NOT like it when you lift the inside rear under braking (Not sure where the nickname came from, but we call it "ice mode").

Symptoms:
-Hard pedal
-No braking (very little)
-Brakes will often come back on the very next braking zone
-few if any physical symptoms of overheating (flaking, bluing, strong odor)
if the rear wheel lifts and stops rotating for 3-5 seconds (seems to vary) the abs lite may set as the motionless wheel is interpreted by the abs ecu algorithm as a ground fault( no signal ) and may turn off abs. For racing when that happens we build in a re-set switch and for race teams there were different racing abs cals ( wont get those no more at the new GM, no Peformance division). You can drive around it, and smooth drivers (who are faster anyway) may lift rear wheels but dont have the issue....disabling abs is easy, but may change brake balance and that may not work for you.....
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Old Aug 21, 2009 | 09:06 AM
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Special thanks to one of my sponsers, Rho Can Mc & Tool, for my new OEM front pads. I bedded them in already and changed all the fluids in preperation for Event #6 of the 2009 Canadian Solosprint Championship on Mosport GP this weekend, Aug 22nd/23rd.
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Old Aug 21, 2009 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by venom09
Special thanks to one of my sponsers, Rho Can Mc & Tool, for my new OEM front pads. I bedded them in already and changed all the fluids in preperation for Event #6 of the 2009 Canadian Solosprint Championship on Mosport GP this weekend, Aug 22nd/23rd.
If you want more bite/feel, why not stainless steel brake lines(unless you already have em )
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Old Aug 21, 2009 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by steddy2112
If you want more bite/feel, why not stainless steel brake lines(unless you already have em )
Because, IIRC, SS brake lines give you another point and Venom doesn't have any points left before he's bumped up a class
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Old Aug 21, 2009 | 12:53 PM
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Because, IIRC, SS brake lines give you another point and Venom doesn't have any points left before he's bumped up a class

No solosprint allows unlimited brake modifications without points.

Simply put stainless lines arent needed on the TC.

If brake fade was a major problem then yes, but it isnt, the system works flawlessly in my experience.
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Old Aug 21, 2009 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by qwikredline
if the rear wheel lifts and stops rotating for 3-5 seconds (seems to vary) the abs lite may set as the motionless wheel is interpreted by the abs ecu algorithm as a ground fault( no signal ) and may turn off abs. For racing when that happens we build in a re-set switch and for race teams there were different racing abs cals ( wont get those no more at the new GM, no Peformance division). You can drive around it, and smooth drivers (who are faster anyway) may lift rear wheels but dont have the issue....disabling abs is easy, but may change brake balance and that may not work for you.....
I ended up just learning to drive smoother and brake a little sooner and softer. I've had no real problems since. That and my times got faster as well... so... what you said lol
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Old Aug 21, 2009 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ogc
No solosprint allows unlimited brake modifications without points.

Simply put stainless lines arent needed on the TC.

If brake fade was a major problem then yes, but it isnt, the system works flawlessly in my experience.
If you like the soft stock pedal, yeah
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Old Aug 21, 2009 | 03:12 PM
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pad time is soon enough so im sub'd for info
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Old Aug 21, 2009 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ogc
No solosprint allows unlimited brake modifications without points.

Simply put stainless lines arent needed on the TC.

If brake fade was a major problem then yes, but it isnt, the system works flawlessly in my experience.
brake fade is unrelated to brake hoses.
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Old Aug 21, 2009 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Maven
brake fade is unrelated to brake hoses.
yeah you are right i had my thoughts backwards.

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