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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 06:14 PM
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I agree colodude is doing a great job and the results will be interesting to witness. I didn't mean to get people distracted asking if anyone had measurable results from alternative heat extraction methods. Real data/results are much more valuable than generalizations from internet know it alls.
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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 06:19 PM
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Related. Sorta.


Also friend has a '76 Camaro that had a stock hood with a hole someone cut for a filter. He swapped it out for a 2 inch cowl and did achieve lower water temps. Especially at low speeds/ cruising. At idle you can see all the extra heat leaving through the cowl. But like others have said. It's for induction of air not exhaust.

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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 06:25 PM
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Now this is some empirical data. Thanks. Would like to see same thing on a Cobalt to see if the difference in geometry makes any difference. It would be interesting to see at what point the window slope is gradual enough to eliminate this high pressure effect.
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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by jdbaugh1
So you're saying people don't do physical fluid dynamics tests?
No... I'm saying your using language 2 degrees above your education level... They're hood vents for God's sake. You debate the simplest **** yet constantly say it doesn't matter, I don't care, I don't know, who cares....

According to JD... It takes a person with 3 engineering degrees to install hood vents.
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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by HGT
No... I'm saying your using language 2 degrees above your education level... They're hood vents for God's sake. You debate the simplest **** yet constantly say it doesn't matter, I don't care, I don't know, who cares....

According to JD... It takes a person with 3 engineering degrees to install hood vents.
Empirical data can be collected by anyone. My request actually had no requirements for education level. I don't know where you got that idea. I was just asking if anyone had proof whether it worked or not. You are the one always talking about how degrees make you special, not me. In fact my comments insinuated that 100 degrees don't necessarily make you right about everything, that I prefer actual physical evidence/experimentation to the opinion of an educated idiot.

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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 07:53 PM
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Here is a video showing empirical evidence of air extraction via hood louvers on a BRZ.
Would be cool to see similar experiments on Cobalt. Based on everything I have seen so far it seems air would flow into the engine bay instead of out if the cowl is removed or if the hood hinges were spaced up. I still think it would make a worthwhile experiment.
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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jdbaugh1
I don't know where you got that idea.
Maybe I used Empirical Data
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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by HGT
Maybe I used Empirical Data
If you did you interpreted the data incorrectly.
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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 08:07 PM
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Can you two **** already and get over it?

Take your old married couple bickering to PMs, this degraded from relevant to irrelevant personal attacks.
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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 08:14 PM
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You can't PM JD... he will post your PM's... Been there , tried that.

I don't know why there is still a debate.... You tried to set them straight.

Originally Posted by ECaulk
iirc removing the cowl plastic actually causes worse underhood airflow

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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 08:20 PM
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Yeah please don't PM me.

Btw, I do apologize for contributing to the bs and mucking up this thread. ... just has a way of pushing my buttons and I couldn't help but respond. I should have refrained. Over and out.

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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ECaulk
Can you two **** already and get over it?

Take your old married couple bickering to PMs, this degraded from relevant to irrelevant personal attacks.
Hey watch it. You want to get reported?
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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jdbaugh1
Yeah please don't PM me.

Btw, I do apologize for contributing to the bs and mucking up this thread. Baby genius just has a way of pushing my buttons and I couldn't help but respond. I should have refrained. Over and out.
Does 2 rights and a wrong make it right.
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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 08:40 PM
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Adrian needs a big ass hood scoop like my Subaru has. Plenty of airflow fam. **** empirical data, **** louvers or whatever communist bullshit named those things. Freedom Vents is what he should call them. louvers is like french or some ****.
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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by leemanfor
Adrian needs a big ass hood scoop like my Subaru has. Plenty of airflow fam. **** empirical data, **** louvers or whatever communist bullshit named those things. Freedom Vents is what he should call them. louvers is like french or some ****.
The French def can drive better than most Soviets: lol:

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Hey watch it. You want to get reported?
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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 08:47 PM
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All I meant by empirical was actual/real/measured/physical and not theoretical only. I didn't know it was a controversial term that required a doctorate to use and I sure as hell didn't mean for it to cause as much excitement as it did.
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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jdbaugh1
All I meant by empirical was actual/real/measured/physical and not theoretical only. I didn't know it was a controversial term that required a doctorate to use and I sure as hell didn't mean for it to cause as much excitement as it did.
I dont think you did sir. I think you knew EXACTLY what you were doing. Dont try to play dumb. I have a doctorate from University of Phoenix and another doctorate from MIT. ok
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Old Mar 6, 2018 | 12:15 AM
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Can we just agree OP has great skills with the dremmel if he freehanded it?
Very true
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Old Mar 6, 2018 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ECaulk
Can you two **** already and get over it?

Take your old married couple bickering to PMs, this degraded from relevant to irrelevant personal attacks.
Well said
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Old Mar 6, 2018 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by colodude18


Louvers. From the Pontiac Grand Prix GXP.
I'm guessing something like these... Although they are about as rare as they get these days.


#10225885 - Left Side Louver - $40.99
#10230097 - Left Side Drip Pan - $8.06

#10225886 - Right Side Louver - $40.99
#10230098 - Right Side Drip Pan - $8.06



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Old Mar 6, 2018 | 03:43 PM
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand were back on track, Im interested to see how these will look.
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Old Mar 6, 2018 | 03:49 PM
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Same here I would mind seeing the end result it would be somethi bff more subtle instead of buying a aftermarket hood
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Old Mar 6, 2018 | 03:53 PM
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Wasn't it Jesse that wanted to carbon fiber everything to make it lighter? I don't remember the thread.

He should help colodude make something special
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Old Mar 6, 2018 | 03:53 PM
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Jesse hasnt made any carbon parts in a while. He was putting a carbon roof on his car last I asked.
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Old Mar 6, 2018 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ProfDNS
Wasn't it Jesse that wanted to carbon fiber everything to make it lighter? I don't remember the thread.

He should help colodude make something special
He's still workingish on it. Well he gave up for a long while, but motivation has somewhat returned
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