What happens to car when autocrossed?
08-27-2010, 07:43 PM
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What happens to car when autocrossed?
What will happen to a Cobalt when autocrossed? Like the edges of the tires getting quite rough and worn aggressively from cornering.
I autocrossed my SS/TC for the first time a few weeks ago. The car was fine before and after the event, tire wear as expected. Everything ran fine despite getting a CEL while racing. The light went off after I tightened the gas cap after fueling up the same day.
A week later I noticed a vibration in the steering wheel developing and the car would pull to one side. Today all of a sudden on the highway, the minor vibration turned into a major event, everything was rattling quite loud, even over the stereo and all the mirrors on the car were shaking violently etc. Took the car to the dealership and they balanced my wheels, did an alignment, and modified the front struts. Problem solved.
My question is, does the alignment commonly get knocked out of whack from autocross racing? Should I expect that to happen every time and is that normal? I wish I had the alignment checked before racing, then I would know whether it was messed up before or after racing.
I autocrossed my SS/TC for the first time a few weeks ago. The car was fine before and after the event, tire wear as expected. Everything ran fine despite getting a CEL while racing. The light went off after I tightened the gas cap after fueling up the same day.
A week later I noticed a vibration in the steering wheel developing and the car would pull to one side. Today all of a sudden on the highway, the minor vibration turned into a major event, everything was rattling quite loud, even over the stereo and all the mirrors on the car were shaking violently etc. Took the car to the dealership and they balanced my wheels, did an alignment, and modified the front struts. Problem solved.
My question is, does the alignment commonly get knocked out of whack from autocross racing? Should I expect that to happen every time and is that normal? I wish I had the alignment checked before racing, then I would know whether it was messed up before or after racing.
08-28-2010, 12:51 AM
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What will happen to a Cobalt when autocrossed? Like the edges of the tires getting quite rough and worn aggressively from cornering.
I autocrossed my SS/TC for the first time a few weeks ago. The car was fine before and after the event, tire wear as expected. Everything ran fine despite getting a CEL while racing. The light went off after I tightened the gas cap after fueling up the same day.
A week later I noticed a vibration in the steering wheel developing and the car would pull to one side. Today all of a sudden on the highway, the minor vibration turned into a major event, everything was rattling quite loud, even over the stereo and all the mirrors on the car were shaking violently etc. Took the car to the dealership and they balanced my wheels, did an alignment, and modified the front struts. Problem solved.
My question is, does the alignment commonly get knocked out of whack from autocross racing? Should I expect that to happen every time and is that normal? I wish I had the alignment checked before racing, then I would know whether it was messed up before or after racing.
I autocrossed my SS/TC for the first time a few weeks ago. The car was fine before and after the event, tire wear as expected. Everything ran fine despite getting a CEL while racing. The light went off after I tightened the gas cap after fueling up the same day.
A week later I noticed a vibration in the steering wheel developing and the car would pull to one side. Today all of a sudden on the highway, the minor vibration turned into a major event, everything was rattling quite loud, even over the stereo and all the mirrors on the car were shaking violently etc. Took the car to the dealership and they balanced my wheels, did an alignment, and modified the front struts. Problem solved.
My question is, does the alignment commonly get knocked out of whack from autocross racing? Should I expect that to happen every time and is that normal? I wish I had the alignment checked before racing, then I would know whether it was messed up before or after racing.
08-28-2010, 01:16 AM
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I'm going to bet you had a loose wheel. Did you hear an occasional popping sound before things got really bad? Remember, the right amount of torque is 100 ft/lbs. Much more than I'm used to for cars.
The CEL is likely a misfire event if you tried to NLS. It happens from time to time.
The CEL is likely a misfire event if you tried to NLS. It happens from time to time.
08-28-2010, 03:26 AM
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Usually just tire sidewall wear... badly if your car has little front negative camber.
Steering could then pull one side after autox because now both side of tires could wear
unevenly. But your car's alignment shouldn't be knock out of wack.
Steering could then pull one side after autox because now both side of tires could wear
unevenly. But your car's alignment shouldn't be knock out of wack.
08-28-2010, 08:20 PM
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x3 sounds like you had a wheel coming loose.
Auto-x is tough on the tires, suspension, and brakes, but not enough to cause something that severe to happen. Something had to have been wrong before you raced the car.
Auto-x is tough on the tires, suspension, and brakes, but not enough to cause something that severe to happen. Something had to have been wrong before you raced the car.
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08-29-2010, 02:32 PM
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Ive autox'd my ss a few times now. Theres tire wear on the edges but ive never had alignment get out of whack that bad. I check my lugs before event to 100lbs. Are you fully stock? I have pedders and sway bar and some things but it doesnt get worse after a autox. As long as you torq spec your bolts you should stay good.
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Autocrossing is not that hard on your car. Think about it it's a quick burst (30-60 seconds) with speeds under 70MPH (usually) not exactly a Sunday drive but far from the abuse your car takes when you lap it or Solo 1.
I've autocrossed my SS/TC a few times and she has been good. If you inflate your tires properly I find (38PSi front 37PSi rear cold works best for me) you won't be rolling your sidewalls much and therefore you won't be shredding the edges of your tires. The only things that your car will go through faster when you autocross a lot is gas, brake pads and tires everything else should be a-ok.
And as for torquing your wheels this is key I always torque mine to 100ft/lbs then after driving a bit 50 miles or so I re-torque them and then the night before an autocross event I tripple check the torque and set my tire pressures, can't be to carefull.
I've autocrossed my SS/TC a few times and she has been good. If you inflate your tires properly I find (38PSi front 37PSi rear cold works best for me) you won't be rolling your sidewalls much and therefore you won't be shredding the edges of your tires. The only things that your car will go through faster when you autocross a lot is gas, brake pads and tires everything else should be a-ok.
And as for torquing your wheels this is key I always torque mine to 100ft/lbs then after driving a bit 50 miles or so I re-torque them and then the night before an autocross event I tripple check the torque and set my tire pressures, can't be to carefull.
09-01-2010, 06:23 PM
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When your car autocrosses? It makes it happy, it starts thinking...."this is what i was made for!! not that dragracing stuff." lol
The cobalt SS/TC is my 4th autoX car in 5 years and I like it, not as much fun as an S2000 or not as fast as the STi but a blast for a front wheel drive car. I havnt had any sort of problems yet with mine other than a few rattles from the stiffer rear konis and dunlop star specs.
The cobalt SS/TC is my 4th autoX car in 5 years and I like it, not as much fun as an S2000 or not as fast as the STi but a blast for a front wheel drive car. I havnt had any sort of problems yet with mine other than a few rattles from the stiffer rear konis and dunlop star specs.
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