Cobalt gone
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how am i butt hurt? i came into the local section, showed a few pics of my new ride, boom, you see quick mention i picked it over ford and you go off.
You own a car that its OWN manufacture calls it terrible. Its not a ****** dick measuring contest, i had the choice with ford and dodge, drove both, liked them both, decided to get dodge. Get over it kid. I joined ram forums and f150 forums, the f150 forums had many topics with transmission complaints with the 6 speed tranny, thats not something i want to hear on new truck, searched the dodge forums and google searched, no complaints on the new dodges drive train.
I did lots of research, couple of months worth, i seen every video there is showing those comparisions, and even in the ford sponsored videos, there was many times the ford guy couldnt help but admit dodge did well. Watch them all, i have, many times. But if you think im going to buy a truck based on adds sponsored by the manufacture, your out of your mind. I didnt get a weaker truck, i got the truck that suites my needs and its fully capable of hauling the maximum load rating shown. Put a 1 ton frame on a half ton drive train and you have a truck that can support much higher loads then recommended but then the rest of the truck wasnt made for it. There is such thing as over doing things, if the fords frame is THAT superior, why is its load and tow rating only marginally higher then the dodge?
You own a car that its OWN manufacture calls it terrible. Its not a ****** dick measuring contest, i had the choice with ford and dodge, drove both, liked them both, decided to get dodge. Get over it kid. I joined ram forums and f150 forums, the f150 forums had many topics with transmission complaints with the 6 speed tranny, thats not something i want to hear on new truck, searched the dodge forums and google searched, no complaints on the new dodges drive train.
I did lots of research, couple of months worth, i seen every video there is showing those comparisions, and even in the ford sponsored videos, there was many times the ford guy couldnt help but admit dodge did well. Watch them all, i have, many times. But if you think im going to buy a truck based on adds sponsored by the manufacture, your out of your mind. I didnt get a weaker truck, i got the truck that suites my needs and its fully capable of hauling the maximum load rating shown. Put a 1 ton frame on a half ton drive train and you have a truck that can support much higher loads then recommended but then the rest of the truck wasnt made for it. There is such thing as over doing things, if the fords frame is THAT superior, why is its load and tow rating only marginally higher then the dodge?
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Well even though I disagree with everything else you have to say, good job on the Dodge purchase.
All vehicles have pro/con's, my friend put it this way.
If you want something disposable, buy a Ford
If you want something dependable, buy a Dodge
If you want something modifiable, buy a Chevy
Seems to sum it right up.
All vehicles have pro/con's, my friend put it this way.
If you want something disposable, buy a Ford
If you want something dependable, buy a Dodge
If you want something modifiable, buy a Chevy
Seems to sum it right up.
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Well even though I disagree with everything else you have to say, good job on the Dodge purchase.
All vehicles have pro/con's, my friend put it this way.
If you want something disposable, buy a Ford
If you want something dependable, buy a Dodge
If you want something modifiable, buy a Chevy
Seems to sum it right up.
All vehicles have pro/con's, my friend put it this way.
If you want something disposable, buy a Ford
If you want something dependable, buy a Dodge
If you want something modifiable, buy a Chevy
Seems to sum it right up.
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Im not a brand loyalist, ive owned a chevy beretta, a jeep liberty, a chevy cobalt and now a dodge, and almost bought a ford. I helped my gf buy her 2010 ford fusion, im the one that brought her to ford to look at the fusion. I go with whatever brand has the best to offer for me or whoever is buying at the time. The brand fanboi **** gets old after awhile.
I joined forums and thats what ultimately swayed me to dodge. Went on two ram forums and two f150 forums, searched the topics, posted questions, ford had more critical issues than dodge on this model year of trucks. I also made the exact post on the ford and dodge forum asking why they choose their truck over the other, and i end up getting Pm's from ford owners saying to get the dodge.
Also lets not forget, dodge offered me a truck worth 5k more then ford for the same price, so i got more options for the money, $5000 worth.
I joined forums and thats what ultimately swayed me to dodge. Went on two ram forums and two f150 forums, searched the topics, posted questions, ford had more critical issues than dodge on this model year of trucks. I also made the exact post on the ford and dodge forum asking why they choose their truck over the other, and i end up getting Pm's from ford owners saying to get the dodge.
Also lets not forget, dodge offered me a truck worth 5k more then ford for the same price, so i got more options for the money, $5000 worth.
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So now you taking runs at the TC to justify your RAM? Get over it.
Of course because it did. But Ford did better. My only point was that the f150 was a more solid truck, and to me that's what counts. The "new" RAM frame design is not as strong as it should be considering it was the foundation of most major complaints.
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So now you taking runs at the TC to justify your RAM? Get over it.
Of course because it did. But Ford did better. My only point was that the f150 was a more solid truck, and to me that's what counts. The "new" RAM frame design is not as strong as it should be considering it was the foundation of most major complaints.
Of course because it did. But Ford did better. My only point was that the f150 was a more solid truck, and to me that's what counts. The "new" RAM frame design is not as strong as it should be considering it was the foundation of most major complaints.
So before you go running your mouth and trying to talk down my vehicle because there is one that you think is better, take a look at yours buddy. I dont see my own manufacture or even other manufactures calling it crap. Im happy with what i have, your happy with what you have so why keep running your mouth? I could go on all day about quality issues on the cobalt and atleast its the same body style, not a model from 9 years ago that u didnt like.
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i have nothing against any of the trucks out there for the half tons, just wasnt a fan of the styling of the chevy but they have a great drivetrain. Just too bland outside and inside for me.
I didnt make this thread for a debate and it wasnt a debate for the first couple pages until a certain loud mouth just couldn't shut his mouth. But thats typical on this forum unfortunately
I didnt make this thread for a debate and it wasnt a debate for the first couple pages until a certain loud mouth just couldn't shut his mouth. But thats typical on this forum unfortunately
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RAMs are weak, sorry if that gets you butthurt. BTW Did you remember to check your sleeves at the door before coming into this thread? 
No I didn't. I simply stated that the new design of frame still falls short of the mark, which is a well known fact. I didn't make that **** up. Now your so upset you have to start up with all the cobalt talk like I haven't heard it before (and like I care). Dude, I would much rather drive my TC (Which isnt my only car btw) than that weak assed poor excuse for a truck. I have had two balts and they have both been solid. Our company has had many rams since the 70's, can't say the same. And I wasnt being a loud mouth, I just disagreed with the fact you bought the better truck thats all.
That was your first mistake.
Some ford **** for you...
you took runs at the ram to justify the ford, get over it.
I joined forums and thats what ultimately swayed me to dodge.
Some ford **** for you...
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RAMs are weak, sorry if that gets you butthurt. BTW Did you remember to check your sleeves at the door before coming into this thread?
No I didn't. I simply stated that the new design of frame still falls short of the mark, which is a well known fact. I didn't make that **** up. Now your so upset you have to start up with all the cobalt talk like I haven't heard it before (and like I care). Dude, I would much rather drive my TC (Which isnt my only car btw) than that weak assed poor excuse for a truck. I have had two balts and they have both been solid. Our company has had many rams since the 70's, can't say the same. And I wasnt being a loud mouth, I just disagreed with the fact you bought the better truck thats all.
That was your first mistake.
Some ford **** for you...
No I didn't. I simply stated that the new design of frame still falls short of the mark, which is a well known fact. I didn't make that **** up. Now your so upset you have to start up with all the cobalt talk like I haven't heard it before (and like I care). Dude, I would much rather drive my TC (Which isnt my only car btw) than that weak assed poor excuse for a truck. I have had two balts and they have both been solid. Our company has had many rams since the 70's, can't say the same. And I wasnt being a loud mouth, I just disagreed with the fact you bought the better truck thats all.
That was your first mistake.
Some ford **** for you...
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SuperchargedSS, if you dont like his purchase and you already made your opinion, then gtfo. No one wants to hear your bullshit. If you want to post something, how about posting proof that the rams frames are weak. Post a forum discussion or a video of ram owners claiming they had issues. I for one like rams, i never really been a truck type of person but so far every time i get in my truck, i have a grin from ear to ear, and not once, either on the track, road or off road has this truck given me any problems.
Unlimited wanted to get rid of his Cobalt, so he did and he made a good choice and got a awesome deal. Seems like all Ford dealerships are ******, ********, rip off's. Kentwood Ford here in Edmonton fucked me over and then fucked andrew "cobalt man" over as well. I also talked to a couple mustang guys and they said they will never do buisness with kentwood ford as well.
Anyways, unlimited, good job, i like the truck. You going to lift it? I would set my truck up for off roading if it wasnt a SRT-10, if it was a Ram 1500 with a hemi, **** i would be having a blast off roading.
Unlimited wanted to get rid of his Cobalt, so he did and he made a good choice and got a awesome deal. Seems like all Ford dealerships are ******, ********, rip off's. Kentwood Ford here in Edmonton fucked me over and then fucked andrew "cobalt man" over as well. I also talked to a couple mustang guys and they said they will never do buisness with kentwood ford as well.
Anyways, unlimited, good job, i like the truck. You going to lift it? I would set my truck up for off roading if it wasnt a SRT-10, if it was a Ram 1500 with a hemi, **** i would be having a blast off roading.
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congrats on the new purchase bud it was the best decision EVER gettin away from the pos cobalt i got rid of mine about a month ago and best decision ever lol i also got a ram 09 single cab shortbox sport and i ****** love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and dont listen to all these douchbags talkin **** about dodge......do any of you know what a sprint is????????id rather drive that than any ******* FORD and besides the sport model rams will smoke any new f150!!!!! and thats a proven fact
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FORD
Free Or Reduced Drastically
Found On Rubbish Dump
Frequent Overhaul Rapid Deterioration
Found Off Road Dead
Found On Racetrack Dead
Failed On Race Day
Fail On Road Daily
I still say good pick... All vehicles have their issues.. one ford has been known for is breaking off spark plugs into the cylinder head & it not being covered by warranty... why? Who knows.
I can tell you as my sister works as service manager at Bonnyville Chrysler, I asked her about the most common issues with these vehicles (being she works in AB which has the most trucks in Canada and its truly put to the test)...
She was saying that the weak front ends is having to do with non-Chrysler modifications that have been done such as lift kits without upgrading front end components... Yes this does happen and no Dodge does not offer the capability of them lifting the truck from factory or as an option up to the '08 models... they offer leveling kits...
Transmission issues happen when you are hauling lots with a vehicle that isn't designated for it... if you want to do hauling often, you should be looking into a 3/4 ton or 1 ton, with diesel engine and proper transmission... also depending on your loads that you are hauling, you'll want to make sure you have the necessary upgrades... this is just common sense!!!!
Best bang for your buck & better product by far is Dodge. My only complaint, which was to be expected, is fuel mileage... sucks on mine and for some reason considerably on UnLiMiTeD's but probably because his has that STS feature with the cylinder shut off.
Free Or Reduced Drastically
Found On Rubbish Dump
Frequent Overhaul Rapid Deterioration
Found Off Road Dead
Found On Racetrack Dead
Failed On Race Day
Fail On Road Daily
I still say good pick... All vehicles have their issues.. one ford has been known for is breaking off spark plugs into the cylinder head & it not being covered by warranty... why? Who knows.
I can tell you as my sister works as service manager at Bonnyville Chrysler, I asked her about the most common issues with these vehicles (being she works in AB which has the most trucks in Canada and its truly put to the test)...
She was saying that the weak front ends is having to do with non-Chrysler modifications that have been done such as lift kits without upgrading front end components... Yes this does happen and no Dodge does not offer the capability of them lifting the truck from factory or as an option up to the '08 models... they offer leveling kits...
Transmission issues happen when you are hauling lots with a vehicle that isn't designated for it... if you want to do hauling often, you should be looking into a 3/4 ton or 1 ton, with diesel engine and proper transmission... also depending on your loads that you are hauling, you'll want to make sure you have the necessary upgrades... this is just common sense!!!!
Best bang for your buck & better product by far is Dodge. My only complaint, which was to be expected, is fuel mileage... sucks on mine and for some reason considerably on UnLiMiTeD's but probably because his has that STS feature with the cylinder shut off.
The trucks we have are on commercial lease and no mods done what so ever on the suspensions and the only thing they tow is a portable compressor that weights about 2000lbs max or one of our boats that is around 3500 to 5500 lbs which is far less then the supposed towing capacity and all our trucks are ordered with the full towing package with tranny cooler. Our company and the owner is very **** about keeping things clean and well maintained as we are a service company. I have heard of a few people on the internet having the spark plug issue in the Fords but since running the 5.4 litre F150 in our fleet we have never had an issue and that has been since 2001. The Fords though we thought were heavy on front breaks at first but seems to last about the same as the last model Dodges so this is the only area where our Sierra 1500's seem better than the others.
P.S. I still haven't got an email back from you regarding my tune???
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UnLiMiTeD, good to hear that you got out of your Cobalt and the issues and congratz on the Ram as it sound like you got a great deal and hope you enjoy it! Hopefully I won't have to face the same Cobalt issues that others are having (Except for rear brakes so far) but I have this as my second vehicle for the economy reasons and just something fun to drive in once in a while.
Ssshhh, don't tell everyone but my other vehicle is a Ford. LOL!!!
And be the better man and just ignore SuperchargedSS and we can all watch him post stuff to try way too hard to prove the point he is trying to make.
This is the most action I have seen on the Western Canada forums though!!
Ssshhh, don't tell everyone but my other vehicle is a Ford. LOL!!!
And be the better man and just ignore SuperchargedSS and we can all watch him post stuff to try way too hard to prove the point he is trying to make.
This is the most action I have seen on the Western Canada forums though!!
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SuperchargedSS... I call your BS... without actually showing proper proof of what you're saying... I totally call BS.
FYI, good on your balt holding together... I can tell you I had to fight for warranty on mine with GM and thats what made me finally decide to part ways... it sucked ****, it was falling a part, it was raddling in places where it should, apparently leaking oil from gaskets is normal, apparently grinding gears is normal, apparently rattling is normal... dealer didn't warranty jack **** on the car... went to 3 different dealers and talked to gm customer care. Good luck when your ride falls apart!
If your fleet of rams was poorly maintained, thats too bad on your company... poorly maintained or not properly equipped vehicles can and will fall a part... like stated previously.. if you don't buy or lease a truck that properly suits your needs then you won't have good success with///break downs can and will be expected.
FYI, good on your balt holding together... I can tell you I had to fight for warranty on mine with GM and thats what made me finally decide to part ways... it sucked ****, it was falling a part, it was raddling in places where it should, apparently leaking oil from gaskets is normal, apparently grinding gears is normal, apparently rattling is normal... dealer didn't warranty jack **** on the car... went to 3 different dealers and talked to gm customer care. Good luck when your ride falls apart!
If your fleet of rams was poorly maintained, thats too bad on your company... poorly maintained or not properly equipped vehicles can and will fall a part... like stated previously.. if you don't buy or lease a truck that properly suits your needs then you won't have good success with///break downs can and will be expected.
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If your fleet of rams was poorly maintained, thats too bad on your company... poorly maintained or not properly equipped vehicles can and will fall a part... like stated previously.. if you don't buy or lease a truck that properly suits your needs then you won't have good success with///break downs can and will be expected.
I'm not going to play the game of back and forth bickering on what is better as I think I stated in my posts all before this that they are all the same and all have their pro's and con's and just stating what our companies experience is with the truck we use.
How about this argument to start. Why did GM discontinue building a small cargo van like the GMC Safari??? I know they had issues too but all service people I deal with won't let them go because they are rear wheel drive, fit in underground parking lots, smaller and easier around town, and are better on gas then the 1/2 ton vans!
Still waiting for an email reply by the way regarding my tune.
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Sorry Rob but I don't quite get your comment here. Did you not read what I posted last? All our vehicles are maintained by the dealers because of the lease agreements and all our fleet of 1/2 ton truck carry and haul way less then their capacities.
I'm not going to play the game of back and forth bickering on what is better as I think I stated in my posts all before this that they are all the same and all have their pro's and con's and just stating what our companies experience is with the truck we use.
How about this argument to start. Why did GM discontinue building a small cargo van like the GMC Safari??? I know they had issues too but all service people I deal with won't let them go because they are rear wheel drive, fit in underground parking lots, smaller and easier around town, and are better on gas then the 1/2 ton vans!
Still waiting for an email reply by the way regarding my tune.
I'm not going to play the game of back and forth bickering on what is better as I think I stated in my posts all before this that they are all the same and all have their pro's and con's and just stating what our companies experience is with the truck we use.
How about this argument to start. Why did GM discontinue building a small cargo van like the GMC Safari??? I know they had issues too but all service people I deal with won't let them go because they are rear wheel drive, fit in underground parking lots, smaller and easier around town, and are better on gas then the 1/2 ton vans!
Still waiting for an email reply by the way regarding my tune.
I was more directing my comments towards SuperchargedSS.
One thing GM did do right was the GMC Safari/cargo vans... those are epic... that and the camaro and a couple other vehicles... I just REFUSE to deal with GM anymore based on my experience with my G5 and their servicing/warranty problems I had with them. I still don't like the cheap feel of GM but there is a few things they do right about their vehicles.
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I forwarded to Nathan, if he hasn't got back to you I'll talk to him tonight. I personally have no time to leave Mission or do too much until late next week because of my two jobs and parents being out of town (having to take care of their house/animals while their gone).
I was more directing my comments towards SuperchargedSS.
One thing GM did do right was the GMC Safari/cargo vans... those are epic... that and the camaro and a couple other vehicles... I just REFUSE to deal with GM anymore based on my experience with my G5 and their servicing/warranty problems I had with them. I still don't like the cheap feel of GM but there is a few things they do right about their vehicles.
I was more directing my comments towards SuperchargedSS.
One thing GM did do right was the GMC Safari/cargo vans... those are epic... that and the camaro and a couple other vehicles... I just REFUSE to deal with GM anymore based on my experience with my G5 and their servicing/warranty problems I had with them. I still don't like the cheap feel of GM but there is a few things they do right about their vehicles.
Sorry I though it was directed at me and was kinda wondering there
I've had no issues with GM Canada so far regarding warranty for the brakes as they sent me a free full service and said to me that next time I go into dealer for the brakes to have the service manager call her (GM Canada) directly to get the brakes resolved once and for all.
You think some GM cars feel cheap, have you driven a car like the Sebring??? I had a new sedan as a rental (had 120 miles) in New York and a convertable in Hawaii in February. Oh my god I can't believe that people buy those! Felt like an earlier Kia!
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Thanks I'll await Nathans email. I might need a re-flash now before I go to dealer but I have no problem driving out your way on the weekends.
Sorry I though it was directed at me and was kinda wondering there
I've had no issues with GM Canada so far regarding warranty for the brakes as they sent me a free full service and said to me that next time I go into dealer for the brakes to have the service manager call her (GM Canada) directly to get the brakes resolved once and for all.
You think some GM cars feel cheap, have you driven a car like the Sebring??? I had a new sedan as a rental (had 120 miles) in New York and a convertable in Hawaii in February. Oh my god I can't believe that people buy those! Felt like an earlier Kia!
Sorry I though it was directed at me and was kinda wondering there
I've had no issues with GM Canada so far regarding warranty for the brakes as they sent me a free full service and said to me that next time I go into dealer for the brakes to have the service manager call her (GM Canada) directly to get the brakes resolved once and for all.
You think some GM cars feel cheap, have you driven a car like the Sebring??? I had a new sedan as a rental (had 120 miles) in New York and a convertable in Hawaii in February. Oh my god I can't believe that people buy those! Felt like an earlier Kia!
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SuperchargedSS... I call your BS... without actually showing proper proof of what you're saying... I totally call BS.
FYI, good on your balt holding together... I can tell you I had to fight for warranty on mine with GM and thats what made me finally decide to part ways... it sucked ****, it was falling a part, it was raddling in places where it should, apparently leaking oil from gaskets is normal, apparently grinding gears is normal, apparently rattling is normal... dealer didn't warranty jack **** on the car... went to 3 different dealers and talked to gm customer care. Good luck when your ride falls apart!
If your fleet of rams was poorly maintained, thats too bad on your company... poorly maintained or not properly equipped vehicles can and will fall a part... like stated previously.. if you don't buy or lease a truck that properly suits your needs then you won't have good success with///break downs can and will be expected.
FYI, good on your balt holding together... I can tell you I had to fight for warranty on mine with GM and thats what made me finally decide to part ways... it sucked ****, it was falling a part, it was raddling in places where it should, apparently leaking oil from gaskets is normal, apparently grinding gears is normal, apparently rattling is normal... dealer didn't warranty jack **** on the car... went to 3 different dealers and talked to gm customer care. Good luck when your ride falls apart!
If your fleet of rams was poorly maintained, thats too bad on your company... poorly maintained or not properly equipped vehicles can and will fall a part... like stated previously.. if you don't buy or lease a truck that properly suits your needs then you won't have good success with///break downs can and will be expected.
Anyhow unlimted, you bought the best truck in the world. Enjoy it.
Now, continue bashing the cobalt like someone cares...
Read fail. And I am not doing your homework for you so go and look for the proof yourself, its out there. There has been at least two independent comparisons done that I know about outside the ford vid (it was just the easiest to look up).
Anyhow unlimted, you bought the best truck in the world. Enjoy it.
Now, continue bashing the cobalt like someone cares...
Anyhow unlimted, you bought the best truck in the world. Enjoy it.
Now, continue bashing the cobalt like someone cares...
like the hydroformed frame or the carbon one. .... I think I will buy a dodge now.