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Hey man nice car but you have to actually post the pics in here. Photobucket and img codes work.
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Gotta say though man that has gotta be one of the cleanest cobalts i have ever seen. Especially for 70k miles. Really sick.
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Yeah I agree. Very VERY clean..
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damn that thing is clean. glad to see there are still a handful of owners that still take car of their LSJs.
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Damn that car is clean!! I would pay 12k for it tho GLWS
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Thanks riceburner. As long as the links work that's fine.
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Originally Posted by CobaltSS 16
(Post 7472404)
damn that thing is clean. glad to see there are still a handful of owners that still take car of their LSJs.
Originally Posted by eddieavila10
(Post 7472412)
Damn that car is clean!! I would pay 12k for it tho GLWS
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Originally Posted by bMac
(Post 7475419)
9? Maybe if it had 60k more miles on it. I just had 2 different dealers offer over 10k.
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Very nice looking car
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Originally Posted by chris88z24
(Post 7475432)
If you're being serious about that dealer offer then I'd be waiting in front of their sales door with the title if I were you.
Fuck the dealers. This shit is WAY cleaner and better kept than a dealer cares to keep one. |
Originally Posted by blueLNFftw
(Post 7475443)
Sorry bud. I call bullshit. Seeing as I just sold and bought SS's; you are full of it.
I bought a 09 LNF for 3k less your asking. A dude is buying a 09 LNF with 15k on for 12.9 in fort Myers from a dealer. Your numbers are way off. Newer SS models with more features are selling for less with less miles... Used Chevrolet Cobalt Coupes for Sale in Tampa, FL 33604 - AutoTrader.com[CHEV[COBALT[COBALT|SS]][]]&modelCode1=COBALT&searchRadius=500&showcaseOwnerI d=63702449&startYear=2006&vehicleStyleCodes=COUPE& Log=0&showcaseOwnerId=63702449&captureSearch=true& fromSIP=F88B708EF3C80A8F4D535FEE79386D86&showToolb ar=true&Log=0 You bought an 09 with less than 75k miles on it for 10? Not as clean as this one. Kinda hard to believe but good for you if you did. At any rate the year doesn't matter. Cars don't age by year. They age by mileage. Plus you're making it seem as if an LNF is way better than an LSJ or has more options. Like what? This is a stage 2 with nearly a year left of warranty on the paint. Which an 09 would not have. Pretty sure it also would not have the custom black inserts or the myriad of other shit this one has. An 09 with 15k? I'd have to check the VIN on that. |
Originally Posted by bMac
(Post 7475470)
Why should I sell it to a dealer for 10k who will finance to someone for 13k and make 6k off it? Fuck the dealers. This shit is WAY cleaner and better kept than a dealer cares to keep one.
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Originally Posted by mr bill
(Post 7475447)
Very nice looking car
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Originally Posted by chris88z24
(Post 7475478)
You should because your car isn't even worth 10k. 07's with less mileage aren't even selling for 10k. The fact that your car is "modded" doesn't add a penny to its value. In fact, with the mods you have, it's worth less.
However it won't change my position. And the mods DO matter especially when comparing it to an 07. Go buy an 07 for 9k then do a stage 2 upgrade to it to get the same performance. You'll get to 13k real quick. People like you are the reason dealers make so much money financing cars. Bottom line is go buy one with less than 75k miles on it. Then do the motor work and the extras and show me the receipts. Just because it was made a few years ago doesn't mean it's worthless. This is STILL a car that WILL do 158mph. |
Originally Posted by bMac
(Post 7475487)
I'll be happy to look at links to those vehicles.
However it won't change my position. And the mods DO matter especially when comparing it to an 07. Go buy an 07 for 9k then do a stage 2 upgrade to it to get the same performance. You'll get to 13k real quick. People like you are the reason dealers make so much money financing cars. Bottom line is go buy one with less than 75k miles on it. Then do the motor work and the extras and show me the receipts. Just because it was made a few years ago doesn't mean it's worthless. This is STILL a car that WILL do 158mph. |
Why fight lol if you arent buying the car why flame on the guy. The car is super clean and has tasteful mods. Yeah price might be high for the usual lsj but if that's what he think is worth and someone pays it good for him. Of it doesnt sell for months then its pretty clear he need to lower the price. But still great car for anyone starting to get
Btw how you get the top to be black? What you use? |
Originally Posted by chris88z24
(Post 7475489)
I wish you the absolute best of luck with selling this car. :twothumbs
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Originally Posted by eddieavila10
(Post 7475490)
Why fight lol if you arent buying the car why flame on the guy. The car is super clean and has tasteful mods. Yeah price might be high for the usual lsj but if that's what he think is worth and someone pays it good for him. Of it doesnt sell for months then its pretty clear he need to lower the price. But still great car for anyone starting to get
Btw how you get the top to be black? What you use? I used fabric dye for the headliner btw. Had to replace the sunroof motor or something so I had to remove the headliner anyway. Kinda of a pain in the ass but it came out nice. |
It looks really nice. For sure something unique
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Originally Posted by blueLNFftw
(Post 7475990)
Just saying....
Cars for Sale: 2009 Chevrolet Cobalt SS in Eustis, FL 32726: Sedan Details - 391206875 - AutoTrader.com https://vimeo.com/117286418 I'll take the latter. Again, I get it. You can find an SS with less mileage or a newer year for slightly less. But this is still not a comparison to me. Go buy the car you linked (Which I'm sure will run up to around 14k by the time you walk off the lot), then go get the windows tinted, buy an exhaust, powder coat the wheels, custom paint all the plastics, buy a new head unit and all new speakers, etc, etc. Even if you do the work yourself, how much are we up to? Just sayin.
Originally Posted by eddieavila10
(Post 7475579)
It looks really nice. For sure something unique
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glws
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This is a really interesting subject to me.
In my mind, you are all for one Cobalt SS owners. And for two, likely people who enjoy modifying and customizing those cars. Why are so many of you devaluing the work you do? Shouldn't taking care of a vehicle and upgraded it be rewarded? Or at least be fairly compensated for? |
No.
Depreciation is a real thing and modding a car is not an investment. The more you mod it, the more you close yourself off of the market. Anything custom is not going to add value and you will never get back what you put in. That is why USED parts sell for less, just like USED cars. I know you are proud of the money you put into your car, but you are never getting it back. If modding a car made money, dealerships would be modding more cars to sell them. The reality is that the market value of your car is barely over $8k in PERFECT condition all stock. No one is bashing you, just trying to give you information as to why your car is overpriced. |
Seriously. Dude is clueless.
Get a Harley next time. |
FYI, that yellow sedan that BlueLNF posted as a reference for you. 1. Way more rare than your car (color, sedan, LNF ), 2. 16k miles ( Practically brand new ), and 3. Faster than your car bone stock w/ more potential for mods. So how is that even remotely a downgrade?
I am in the market right now for another cobalt, and no offense, but I wouldn't pay more than 6k for ANY SS/SC regardless of condition, only way would be if it was TVS or Turboed. I mean, GLWS, honestly, but if I were you I would the the first 7500 that came to my door if I could get it. There are SS/TC balts with 75-80k on them selling for 7500-9k in the Northeast, I just haven't found the right one yet. |
Originally Posted by blueLNFftw
(Post 7476459)
No.
Depreciation is a real thing and modding a car is not an investment. The more you mod it, the more you close yourself off of the market. Anything custom is not going to add value and you will never get back what you put in. That is why USED parts sell for less, just like USED cars. Thanks for the input but you misunderstood the question. I was not asking for an explanation of the economics the new and used vehicle market operates under today. I understand it quite well. The question is why do "you," (people who buy vehicles for the specific reason of customizing them) except that all the work you do on it will be worth nothing? QUOTE=blueLNFftw;7476459]I know you are proud of the money you put into your car, but you are never getting it back.[/QUOTE] I have no expectation of getting all the money I spent on my car back. If I were I would be asking 16k, FIRM. I have all the receipts for my mods and most of them were done in the last 2 years. QUOTE=blueLNFftw;7476459]If modding a car made money, dealerships would be modding more cars to sell them.[/QUOTE] Dealerships don't make cars. They sell them. Merely a middle man. And they make enough money off financing them to not give a shit about modding them. However, dealerships DO make mods to cars. Mostly due to the manufacturer specifically making parts for those vehicles to be modded. Case and point, this one. QUOTE=blueLNFftw;7476459]The reality is that the market value of your car is barely over $8k in PERFECT condition all stock. No one is bashing you, just trying to give you information as to why your car is overpriced.[/QUOTE] Well that's odd because like I already said, two separate DEALERS offered me 10k for it. Also these links disagree: Cars for Sale: 2008 Chevrolet Cobalt SS in ORANGE CITY, FL 32763: Coupe Details - 391051823 - AutoTrader.com This one not even supercharged: Cars for Sale: 2007 Chevrolet Cobalt SS in TAMPA, FL 33612: Coupe Details - 390429823 - AutoTrader.com Also not supercharged and has 20k more miles: Cars for Sale: 2007 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Coupe in Charlotte, NC 28212: Coupe Details - 375253871 - AutoTrader.com And another NA: Cars for Sale: 2007 Chevrolet Cobalt SS in Kingsport, TN 37660: Coupe Details - 377290599 - AutoTrader.com I only take comments as "bashing," if they blatantly are. ;)
Originally Posted by chris88z24
(Post 7476497)
Seriously. Dude is clueless.
Get a Harley next time. |
Originally Posted by brett3tiger
(Post 7477480)
FYI, that yellow sedan that BlueLNF posted as a reference for you. 1. Way more rare than your car (color, sedan, LNF ), 2. 16k miles ( Practically brand new ),
Originally Posted by brett3tiger
(Post 7477480)
and 3. Faster than your car bone stock w/ more potential for mods. So how is that even remotely a downgrade?
If you meant quicker, and are comparing a stock SC to a stock TC then yes. The TC is 4 tenths of a second quicker. Not much. But if you are comparing a Stage 2 SC to a stock TC then again, you are wrong. Here's a good demonstration: I don't understand why so many people think the TC is faster/better than the SC. They are the same vehicle. The only reason GM turbo charged them after 07 is because their contract with Eaton expired. It wasn't because turbo is better. If you need proof than look at drag cars and how long they have been using SUPERCHARGERS. Not turbo. You have to use 2 turbos to get the same power arch.
Originally Posted by brett3tiger
(Post 7477480)
I am in the market right now for another cobalt, and no offense, but I wouldn't pay more than 6k for ANY SS/SC regardless of condition, only way would be if it was TVS or Turboed.
Originally Posted by brett3tiger
(Post 7477480)
I mean, GLWS, honestly, but if I were you I would the the first 7500 that came to my door if I could get it.
Originally Posted by brett3tiger
(Post 7477480)
There are SS/TC balts with 75-80k on them selling for 7500-9k in the Northeast, I just haven't found the right one yet.
Maybe if you wait long enough you'll find one as nice as mine;) Time = money though doesn't it. |
If it's so nice then why are you selling it?
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So then, you spend all that money on GMS2 and supporting mods, and I spend $600 on a downpipe and tune from a good tuner? And then we race and who's faster?? I can tell you because I have owned 2 LNF's. And I would take 1 yellow sedan made out of 15 total... That's right, 15 total, over a very common silver SC anyday just for the cool factor. The sedans are way more functional as far as space is concerned and just as fast. Like I said, any informed buyer would be very loose with their money to even give you 7500, so good luck. If I buy an LSJ, the chances of it being supercharged for more than 6 months are slim and none, know why? The m62 is fucking slow. The amount of money that has to be poured into the m62, or a TVS setup for that matter will never be as good as a turbo swap, idc what anyone says. There are far more fast LSJ-Ts than TVS LSJs.
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Originally Posted by bMac
(Post 7478086)
I don't understand why so many people think the TC is faster/better than the SC. They are the same vehicle. The only reason GM turbo charged them after 07 is because their contract with Eaton expired. It wasn't because turbo is better. If you need proof than look at drag cars and how long they have been using SUPERCHARGERS. Not turbo. You have to use 2 turbos to get the same power arch. In stock and lightly modded form, the SS/TC will curb stomp an SS/SC. From power, suspension, braking, cornering, clutch, axles, the SS/TC is much better than the SS/SC. And no, mods don't add value, they subtract value. You will have to find a sucker to pay this much. A bank won't loan on a car that is well over Blue Book. Hell some of us bought SS/TCs for $18k with no miles on them. I wouldn't expect to get more then $9k for my own SS/TC. Your car is 10 years old. Yes mileage is a factor, but so is age. You get all kinds of factors on a car due to age. Rust, worn rubber parts, effects of sitting, etc. |
Glws. Damn I guess I'm the only one who thinks it's cool to have a supercharged 4 banger lol. We all know turbo makes more power but you really don't need more than 350 to the wheels in a fwd anyways. But it's about preference and we are all different.
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damn you guys are brutal.
I agree with his price being high... but if you're not buying it... be done with it. You already stated your cases. |
It's not that we're not buying it. It's that NOBODY is going to buy it for anywhere near his asking price. You would need a clean LNF with about 25k miles on it to pull 13k, and even then that's a dealer price. We were, at first, just politely trying to inform him that he was probably going to have to settle on half his asking price to sell it. That is, until he tried to justify his price with really bad reasons.
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Originally Posted by CobaltSS 16
(Post 7478184)
damn you guys are brutal.
I agree with his price being high... but if you're not buying it... be done with it. You already stated your cases. |
Sometimes it is fun to throw rocks.
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hey everybody leave him alone on the price, price bashing is NOT allowed. he can charge a million gazillion for all he wants that is up to him, and up to you to offer money or walk.
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Originally Posted by bMac
(Post 7475417)
Thanks riceburner. As long as the links work that's fine.
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people on here get more and more ridiculous as the years on these cars go by...which is why i only lurk now days..is not much fun been here anymore. OP is your car and by looks you took care of it 10 times better than most LNF & LSJ owners on here. Ask what you think you deserve for keeping a car in that condition. will you get it? who knows but ignore what people on here say..
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