Hey laloosh, do they have tuning out for the ms3's yet? And are they able to get rid of the boost control feature in like gears 1-4? I wonder what a ms3 with eliminated boost limit would do in the 1/4 mile...because i'm in the market for a new car....

hmmmm don't like the new srt4's though...love the old ones...maybe i'll do gto or something...idk there's so many niCe cars out there

 

theres tuning out for the car right now. personally im waiting for cobb ap to get their unit finished. Right cpe and xede have units out. i/tbe/tune = 300whp easy. I/tbe/tune/meth injection = 350whp.

 

Do you have any idea what a ms3 with the boost limit removed does in a 1/4 mile? Has anyone done it yet?

 

a guy with i/tbe/tune/meth ran 13.2 @ 110. He needs to learn how to drive lol. Thats an easy 12 second car. He had a high 2.2 60. You put some drag radials on that thing and your running mid to low 12s

 

DAMN 110 is a niCe speed....i'd love to see what a turbo swap is capable on that, probably 11's low 12's...man these numbers are really making me want a turbo lol

 

impressive numbers.
turbo > * for straight line power.

 

damn thats actually a quick ass car

 

Same here, I been posting in here for awhile but this guy never responds to me. I don't blame him though

 

if you post here, you would see all the threads i made. Technically im faster in the 1/4 than you lol

 

*chuckle* you should take note of what mods he did that 13.6 with.
compared to what he has now......

 

exactly, so why would i want to race a cobalt thats pretty much fully modded? Is there really a point to that. This is what i mean, the only guys who actaully talk are guys who are fully modded with stage 2, i dont even consider that stage 2 anymore. Your tune should not determine your stage. IM on the stock tune, does that mean my car is stock? No

 

fully modded? nah.

fully modded LSJ engines are running 7s.
hes not quite that modded

 

exactly, 12s comming soon. Thanks man

 

fully bolted...you know what i mean. Im guessing hes not too far away from popping that engine.
I would race him gladly, let me get my downpipe/mbc/intercooler

if no1 has figured this out yet...i race races that are going to be close

 

I agree, the point is I'm much faster then you without a tune. I would say I would pull about 2-3 cars on you now with my current set up. With a tune I would pull harder. The point is I'm on the stage II pulley and tune.

 

LOL dude where do you get these ideas.
close to popping the engine?

the ONLY cobalts that have blown engines are on pullys that are way to small and creating shitloads of heat.
hes on a very conservative pully actually. and has a few steps to go before hes pushing the limit yet.

 

I am no where near poping my engine. My car runs perfect and is very safe. Research before you post BS. A SS/SC with dual pass intercooler and H/E on a 2.9 pulley has 0% chance of blowing up from those mods. If anything a blown motor would come with a overly agreesive tune or something like that. On the Stage II tune not a chance. To be honest I'm impressed with you car but I knew they were going to be quick cars. To each his own, I think the MS3 is a great performance car but lacks in looks. My main point is I'm a stage II Cobalt with bolt ons without a tune. My Cobalt > your MS3 I'm faster, my car looks better. Just wait till I hook up, I have hit 109mph trap speed before without my new mods. With that said, whoever had the most cash wins time and time again. Someone with alot of cash could make a Geo Storm run low 9s or better....haha

 

the type of pulley wont blow your engine. I dont have experience modding a cobalt, but common sense tells me when you keep adding **** to a previous tune, the car eventually runs out of gas. Running out of gas = pop. Being that im assuming and guessing you are trapping around 110, on a tune that is meant to trap around 102, means you are making a **** load more power than a basic stage 2 cobalt, the more power you make the more fuel you need. You actually dyno that thing and see what your putting down? af ratios? im not bashing here btw

 

not all mods = more fuel

not all reductions in 1/4 mile times, or increases in trap speed = more fuel.

trust me, the stock stage 2 tune can handle his engine mods with ease.

 

so he is outtrapping and pretty much beating every stage 2 cobalt because......?
Trust me im not a newbie so dont talk to me liek one. In order to increase trap speed you need of two things, more power or less weight. If hes trapping 108, thats pretty much rapping any stage 2 cobalt on this board. Sincet hat 108 he said he has added a bunch of things, its only fair to say he in increasing his power output.

 

My car has always been crazy faster then normal cobalts. I have one of the best stock runs on the board to. Some people who went to the track looked under my hood and everything and was like WTF how is this car so fast. Maybe its just driver mod...naa could not be that cuz I burned up my clutch ahaha

It also helps being here in PA and running on the East Coast... As far as fuel my car runs rich haha so just think I could be even quicker with a tune so naa your not on par man. Thats why I'm putting a 2.9 on slightly smaller and lighter then a stage II pulley. This will lean it up and little bit and give me some more power.

 

hes running a 2.9 pully on stock stage 2 tune/fueling.
over a year and a half we have watched thousands of people run 2.8 pullys on the same setup, and NOT ONE SINGLE blown engine with that setup.

trust me. hes quite safe.

 

do you understand how engines work? IT doesnt matter what kind of pulley he is running, its all about the tune. He says its ok. Put it this way i can take a stock cobalt, add i/rh/e/ polish the head/ polish the charger, remover whatever restrictions, cam it and most likly blowt he fucken thing up on the stock tune. Do you get what im saying here? Power and a lack of tune blows engine, not pulley size. I can put a 2.5 inch pulley on a stock cobalt, tune it pig rich and it wont blow, it doesnt mean it will be faster, it just wont blow

 

pedantics.

yes your point is valid. but the context is not relevant here.
he is not running anything crazy internal. just basic boltons with a 2.9 pully.

And yes that 2.5 will blow, eventually, no matter how rich you tune it.
because its pouring superheated air into the engine, causing massive cylinder temps,
check around, youll find quite a few blown 2.5 engines who were all having great a/f ratios.

the pully DOES matter. maybe your used to turbo applications im not sure. but blower pully means alot when you start going past its efficiency level.

 

If you tune the 2.5 to run rich, not 'great' af ratios it wont blow. Fuel is what cools the cylinders. When people tune for great a/f ratios it means they tune for power, not realibility. I was under the impression that he had more work done based on his trap speed, instead he just has a freak cobalt that outtraps any stage 2 ive seen.