I admire the fact that a 2.2L AUTO is going places faster then a SS/SC stock and what they are basically attempting to do is show that even N/A small displacement domestics can achieve fast times without forced induction.

I personally won't ever want to spend that much money on something N/A. I would place the power plant between 180-210whp. Not bad for a 2.2 with no spray or turbo/supercharger to push it's fat ass down the road.

Yah, Honda's can be fast NA but they weigh next to nothing and when you gut what they have for interior your shaving another second off the quarter with bolt ons and tuning as well. At least this thing is breaking into the 13's almost while other members cannot do it in there SS/SC even with $2000 dropped into the car I realize that's driver error but come on now..

 

well said m-dub and sneaky

 

I'll say it, rice on a track. All show on go. To each their own. A couple more stickers and it will run 14 flat. Thanks for the laugh

 

All show no go? WTF there is nothing on the outside that doesn't have a logical purpose. Your just stupid. Thats a pretty neat little car, i would like to see you get a 2.2 eco auto to do that without F/I or NO.

 

Money talks and BS walks!!!! Like I said to each their own!!!!


If they can do it someone else can too, maybe even faster

 

Yes it is to each their own... But the flamin' needs to stop on this forum... We are all here for advice and to help each other out... When I had my 2.2 all I got was get the SS/SC your car sucks whatever... Now I do have the SS/SC and I don't flame on everyone else trying to do what they like and love doin'! Leave the negative comments to yourselves if I wanted to modd a 3 cyl Geo I would do it because I wanted too... Not to impress anyone! But yes there will ALWAYS be someone faster! So your 13 sec car... there will always be someone runnin' a 12.9! We are ALL in the same boat with the same cars... if you don't like what I am doin' SHUT UP!

 

THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING SINCE I CAME HERE!

 

Hey everyone, Thanks for all the comments. I just signed up as a member on the forum about a week ago and never had time to post on here yet. I just found this thread and thought it was kinda cool it got started on here by someone so I thought I would post about some of the comments.

As far as the all show no go thing I would definitely agree you the comments, but, to some extent that was the basic plan for the initial build I.E. build a car/chassis that can handle the power we want to throw at it in the future but build a very basic motor to start with to work out the "new car bugs" without hurting good parts etc. SO that in the future... all that needs to happen is out with one engine in with another.
As far as the weight of the car, it is definietly fully gutted with lexan but believe it or not with me in the car it still weights 2280, which is light but I envy the lighter honda's thats for sure.
Despite what the initial post actually says, the quickest the car has is actually 14.16 (minor difference from the 14.13) @ 98.79 mph. The car has been VERY consistent... and as far as sequence of runs... the first three runs off the trailer in Norwalk Ohio for the Nopi World Finals this year were 14.18X, 14.18X, 14,18X. And the worst part is... I went -.005 red second round. *tears* As far as the ET's in general with the car we have been disappointed to this point due to we have been having launching issues with the car...we are real confident it just has the wrong converter in it because the 2.25 60's just aren't cutting it for the car, it leaves the line slower than a moped! at least it feels that way anyways... but I have a 15 sec bracket car that runs 2.0X 60's... so the 2.25;s are frustrating for us... especially when the car will break the tires loose 100 ft out. We quess with the current setup that it should have run 13.8's or so with the right converter but the season came to an end to quick.
As far as mods, motor is very very mild. Aside from upgraded valve springs and cams the Head is completely stock and unported. The engine still retains the stock pistons and compression. Has eagle rods, neutral shafts, and thats it. We run Big Stuff 3 Engine Management. So as far as engine mods... there isnt many. But like I said earlier that was the plan... work out the cars bugs before throwing lots of power at it if we were still planning on bracketing the car for the short term
Overall we have been pleased with the car, we turned it from a daily driven 95 cavy (Nasty teal green color to be exact) to a cloan 05 Cavy in about 7 to 7.5 months. First race out with the car was the NHRA Sport Compact Fall Nationals down in E-town... and we won B-2 which we were very happy with. So Overall the car has treated us well.

Got to thank eveyone who;s helped us out this season, Big Stuff 3 engine management, Meguiar's Car Care products, Hoosier Racing Tire, Enterprise Strategy Group, Old Time Auto Sales, Z's custom exhaust, CSI Drag Racing, Waynes Tool Service and anyone else I may have forgot.

p.s. The motor is coming out next week!

 

Funny Fred posted this 4 days ago and not one comment.

I find it funny that people can talk so much trash about a vehicle but they don't know the full purpose of the vehicle. Looks faster than it is? What "looks" fast? I never understood what makes a car look fast. I have friends with stock bodys who runs 12s or better...so what looks fast? Looks mean nothing. What he did was from a performance aspect. He dropped weight and his car looks the way it is cause it's meant for drag racing purposes, it's not a daily driver car.

Like fred said, he brought the appropriate parts and did his setup like this for a specific reasons. He's done very little work compared to what he could have done if he wanted, he wasn't going to jump into a project like most people would have. This is a progression.

As far as the "2.2 auto running 14.1 not being impressive", you guys do realize that a stock 2.2 auto runs low 16s, right? He essentially dropped 2 seconds off his car with little work done (and it's not all about weight loss people)...so yeah, I find that impressive.

 

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I'm glad he came to explain, sounds very knowlegeable, and I realize that he coud have slapped F/I on it without building up the suspension or anything and could have prob ran around the same times, but now when he gets a kick ass engine in it, he'll have an all out performer.

 

Exactly.

 

totally agree,just cause I guy does very little to mod his car,and runs what anther car with a turbo or Sc runs is no reason to flame

 

true, there is something to be said " for a bullit Na engine,he knows his engine can take a beating

 

Why comment on a died post? No since to argue over something that is long over! It is what it is! Looks fast and now we know it SHOULD get faster next year or so. When he comes back next year and he's running 10's then we can talk about what a good story this is, until then it's a died post

Looks do mean something to most. Like lets say you see a girl and she has a zitty face, would you date her? More then likely not. If I was at the staging lights and this car came up and we had to race I would think he would win, but if looks didn't mean anything then I wouldn't have to weary about anything because looks don't mean a thing, well to some of us they do

 

The point that they were making is that now that Fred had stood up for himself, everyone has stopped talkin crap. And instead of giving props and or apologizing they did the usual youngin response and probably started flaming elsewhere.
As far as looks goes, they are modding for the future, which is some of the reason many on here are having so many problems blowing up their cars. Too much cheap go power and no prep or support for it. I had a younging tell me saturday that I should just drop a 2.5" pulley on my SS/SC, I kinda chuckled at him and moved on because their was no reason to start an argument with someone that doesn't know what they are talking about.
Anywayz...Congrats Fred, nice to see ya here and I look forward to getting them springs as well as hearing more about your future plans.

 

Long over? Nah. 4 days isn't "long over". A few weeks...a couple months and so on, yeah, thats long over. Also, the only reason I commented was because of:

1. Me and Fred were talking on the phone and he brought this thread to my attention
2. Cause I find it incredibely rude of people to say idiotic comments (not saying they are idiots, but they're comments weren't the smartest) like "looks faster than it is".
3. Cause I like giving my opinion on a forum board.
4. Cause I wanted to point out something interesting of people not saying 1 word when the owner of the vehicle comes in and gives the reality of the situation. No apologies as well as negative comments.

That's basically it.

 

You tell em NJHK

 

lol..Sounds like Adam has some pent up aggression that he needs to let out..You go with your bad self.

 

Oh yeah, and it's...Dead post, not died post. You believe that the post was dead, or it may have died. Not..This post is died, why are we commenting on a died post, and so on..

 

Eh, I got more things pissing me off in real life than online but I wasn't trying to mix the two or anything, just stating my opinion and facts.

 

Went to your website and congrats on your WALLY The boys and girls here just don't understand how hard bracket racing is even with an auto trans. I request some info from you about a 07 2.2 Cobalt. I ran my stepson's 07 this past weekend and found the car to be very in-consistant 16.89 - 16.71 (deep staging). I did go 5 rounds before the dial in issues bit me. I was able to cut lights with the front wheel drive car. I was .046, .051, .059, .070 woops late, .057, added 2.5lbs air to the rear tires and was .024, added 2.5 lbs air to the rear and was .001 and a loosing .002. This was my first time out with the totally stock car. I been searching for bracket racing info and finally found someone who's into it bigtime. I ran Div 1 Summit series at Maple Grove and the CC at RP this past season. I'm trying to find some info on brackets for sub compacts or may run the Cobalt in Pro brackets at the Grove if I can get it to go 15.99 or better (slowest cut for that class). Congrats again and hopefully someone will take notice and learn what you are doing and the steps taken to get it done the right way.

 

Do these really help THAT much? is it a worth while upgrade?

 

ok, i skipped reading these assanine posts... but come one man... take it for what it is... it's an auto 2.2 that knocked a good 2 seconds off it's time without going F/I... that's pretty good... 2 seconds is a good chunk to knock off... it's like an ss/sc running low 12's... if that was the case, i bet the comments here would be alot different...

 

Yes. Getting rid of unnecessary rotating mass inside the engine bay does help.