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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 04:25 AM
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Cobalt SS/TC vs Maxima

This details a battle between bitter rivals.

Cobalt SS vs Maxima on Youtube

The above video was a rematch after this terrible defeat.

Cobalt vs Maxima

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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 04:37 AM
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fast maxima but hes got 5mph on it
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 06:54 AM
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good runs regardless of mph. Just goes to show ya that making a ton of HP isn't always the best setup. So many times people forget or skip tires.

but, throw those same tires on the cobalt and you don't really stand much of a chance.
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ralliartist
good runs regardless of mph. Just goes to show ya that making a ton of HP isn't always the best setup. So many times people forget or skip tires.

but, throw those same tires on the cobalt and you don't really stand much of a chance.
On the first run we were both using general exclaim UHP street tires. His are 235/40/18 and mine are 245/40/18. He still lost through the 1/8th!

The cobalt is making roughly 330whp, maxima weighs about 150-200lbs more and around 270whp N/A.

Oh and that cobalt can't use anything even remotely near the same tires.

15" wheels and slicks (big sidewalls, tons of options) fit on the maxima. The cobalt can't go below 17" wheels, and has very few options for real slicks.
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 12:58 PM
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you can drive the hell out of that thing then
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 01:01 PM
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good running maxima. what tires in the 2nd vid

for future reference: leave the gay stuff out lol
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 01:04 PM
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Man nice Maxima!
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by hatrickstu
good running maxima. what tires in the 2nd vid

for future reference: leave the gay stuff out lol
24.5x8x15" MT ET slicks. If I change over to 26x10.5x15", I believe there are 1.7/1.6 '60s in the future.

I never skip an opportunity to accost people with gay stuff.
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 01:13 PM
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mickey thompson does not make an et slick lol. is it the et street or et drag?

and on the size change: what were you launching at? do you think the car will hold a higher launch rpm?
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 01:13 PM
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Who is the weird guy at the end holding the "NAWZ" bottle?
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 01:17 PM
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This is an earlier defeat of the cobalt.

Cobalt vs Maxima

Originally Posted by hatrickstu
mickey thompson does not make an et slick lol. is it the et street or et drag?

and on the size change: what were you launching at? do you think the car will hold a higher launch rpm?
ET drag obviously.... When I said ET slicks, that means they aren't the street radials. lol

Clutch was slipping on the launch, but it can handle 5k clutch dumps pretty easily.

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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 01:18 PM
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lol et streets are not a radial

why do you want to step up to 26's?
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by marcusicp
Who is the weird guy at the end holding the "NAWZ" bottle?
That is a picture of the cobalt driver caught red handed attempting to steal the NOS bottle.

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lol et streets are not a radial

why do you want to step up to 26's?
Even if they are bias ply, I would not have called et streets a slick.

Switch would be for better gearing (especially on the launch) and so I can stay in 4th gear with higher power since I'll be pushing it close when I start spraying again (upwards of a 200 shot).

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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 01:24 PM
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k, just curious
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by MaximaSS
On the first run we were both using general exclaim UHP street tires. His are 235/40/18 and mine are 245/40/18. He still lost through the 1/8th!

The cobalt is making roughly 330whp, maxima weighs about 150-200lbs more and around 270whp N/A.

Oh and that cobalt can't use anything even remotely near the same tires.

15" wheels and slicks (big sidewalls, tons of options) fit on the maxima. The cobalt can't go below 17" wheels, and has very few options for real slicks.
actually, that cobalt has quite a few options. All he has to do is put a little thought and elbow grease into it. Throw some ss/sc brakes on there and he can run 15" wheels and slicks.

Still thought, I wasn't tring to take anything away from you, impressive for a maxima.

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24.5x8x15" MT ET slicks. If I change over to 26x10.5x15", I believe there are 1.7/1.6 '60s in the future.

I never skip an opportunity to accost people with gay stuff.
if you go to a bigger tire, you are more likely to lose on your 60' unless you drop in a bigger final drive. The larger tire will hurt your gearing. If you want to lower that 60' more, maybe focus on the suspension. Drag bags in the rear, limiting straps in the front.

Ditto on the MT ET drags or streets. They are both slicks.

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That is a picture of the cobalt driver caught red handed attempting to steal the NOS bottle.



Even if they are bias ply, I would not have called et streets a slick.

Switch would be for better gearing (especially on the launch) and so I can stay in 4th gear with higher power since I'll be pushing it close when I start spraying again (upwards of a 200 shot).
Like I already said, stepping the tire up will make your gearing less aggressive. It may help your top end to prevent you from going to an overdrive gear or something, but it'll hurt your launch. Now if your spraying, that'll more than make up for the loss in gearing. It's all about tq on the holeshot. Nitrous will give you a nice be tq spike and rocket you on the launch. But the bigger tire will hurt.

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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ralliartist
Like I already said, stepping the tire up will make your gearing less aggressive. It may help your top end to prevent you from going to an overdrive gear or something, but it'll hurt your launch. Now if your spraying, that'll more than make up for the loss in gearing. It's all about tq on the holeshot. Nitrous will give you a nice be tq spike and rocket you on the launch. But the bigger tire will hurt.
I would agree with you if we were talking about the cobalt. He traps in 3rd gear and could go even smaller on timers.

In my case, I have very short gears. with the 24.5x8" slicks, I do not always hook (especially not on a shot of nitrous) and I will be topping out 3rd gear in the 1/8th at 92ish mph, 4th gear at around 118. I go to both 1/8 and 1/4 mile traps and I want it to be optimal for both. With a 125-150 shot of nitrous and some other N/A mods planned, I am hoping for 98-99mph traps in the 1/8th and 120-122mph traps in the 1/4, and with suspension and bigger slicks, I can spray out of the hole and pull a 1.6-1.7 (some other maximas have done 1.5s, but I don't think I will be able). The bigger tire will allow me more traction, longer gears so I can stay in 3rd in the 1/8 and 4th in the 1/4, faster '60 foots, and probably snapped axles.
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what about your transmission?
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 04:57 PM
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Nice launch....... You're not shy to give her ****. The TC driver should be ashamed.
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 05:40 PM
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That's a badass maxima. What all is done to get the 106-107.5 trap??? 350z intake manfold swap?

I sure do miss my 02 Maxima as it was a fun/nice car. I managed a 14.33 at 98.5mph with a K+N drop in.
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by hatrickstu
what about your transmission?
The 6-speed (HLSD) that I have now is good up to about 500 wtq on slicks. If I have issues at higher power, I can swap in a 6th gen maxima 6-speed transmission with stronger synchros and a par gearset that should be good for upwards of 800wtq. If I break any axles, I will send them to driveshaft shop and have some strong ones made at a pretty steep cost, but it will be worth it to have solid parts.

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That's a badass maxima. What all is done to get the 106-107.5 trap??? 350z intake manfold swap?
Mods to get the 106-107.5 traps were these:

Autozone SRI
NWP spacers
Vias delete stock IM (no port matching)
Cattman v3 Headers + Y-Pipe with open dump
UTEC summer tuned to 6700 rpms. I forgot my laptop and couldn't tune!
3330LB race weight full interior

Current mods that you see in the early part of that video are:

3" CAI
Kinetix IM + NWP spacers and LIM port matching
Cattman v3 Headers + Y-pipe
2.5" mandrel Custom Maxima brand catback + extra resonator and test pipe delete.
UTEC tuned aggressively for the winter with more timing and 7200rpm rev limiter.
Slipping clutch failure.

I will unbolt the exhaust at the track as usual, with plans to use an electric cutout later on if a build progresses.

Going to swap in a stage 3 street clutch or a 6-puck ceramic clutch... not sure which yet.

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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 07:14 PM
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so no spray in either of the vids?
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by hatrickstu
so no spray in either of the vids?
Nope. Here are some of my nitrous videos. I was untuned with just boltons and 75 shot. This was winter 08.

Group Run on youtube
maxima vs cobalt
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 08:19 PM
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so that would have been yes, there was spray in the second video. a la post #11. that 12.6 is why i asked about nitrous
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yea, I was wondering where that random 111mph trap and over half a second drop came from. Nitrous explains it.
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Originally Posted by hatrickstu
so that would have been yes, there was spray in the second video. a la post #11. that 12.6 is why i asked about nitrous
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yea, I was wondering where that random 111mph trap and over half a second drop came from. Nitrous explains it.
Yeah I thought you were asking about the 2 races in the first video. I went to the track one time in December with a 75 shot kit thrown on in 1 day.

Best ET on an almost empty bottle... that 1/8th mile with a full bottle could make for a 12.2-12.3


Best MPH

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