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Old May 5, 2006 | 11:51 PM
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Just got back from ceicel with stage 2 :'(

Just got back from the track. Was a little disapointed hence I had stock tires put back on and a torque brace and stage 2. I was able to run VERY low 14's the whole time. Still cant get my launch down without going from an Idle so I have the feeling thats whats keeping me out of the 13's. I also gapped my plugs a little over .40 so IM gonna race my bro when his back gets situated and see if he can beat me to see if that may be an issue.


anyway heres a movie and some times.

On the sheet on the left that was my last run of the night and was against an SRT-4.

On the sheet on the right that was my boy edubb in his Pontiac G6 GTP 6 speed. also the video below is that race.

I went up there with a 350 Z, Altima SE-R, Acura Type - S, neon 2.0 magnum, and the Pontiac G6, needless to say I was atleast .5 seconds faster then all of them.




Heres a video

http://www.xenozx.com/movies/track05052006race.MPG


Anyway I was hoping for 13's will try to go back and get them.
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Old May 5, 2006 | 11:59 PM
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good race....

your in the same pickle as me lol

We have the same mods and still sitting at very low 14s trying to get 13s... except im 5000 feet above sea level :P

good runs man, atleast you were consistant
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Old May 6, 2006 | 12:03 AM
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cecil is like 400 feeet above sea level
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Old May 6, 2006 | 12:07 AM
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what can i say, your 60 foot is almost as good as its gonna get with this tires... lowest ive seen is 2.1. Are you powershifting?

I was powershifting my last day at the track (not letting off the gas while shifting) and i gained a 10th from the time b4 at the track. But after 5 passes my clutch slipped pretty good on my 1-2 shift and today it slipped again when i was out cruising and shifting hard... so now i have to order a new clutch :'(
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Old May 6, 2006 | 12:16 AM
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no I dont power shift, and I idle launch. I would think with Idle launching that would hurt my 60, if I get a better clutch that grabbs when you launch at like 1.5 -2000 rpms I would think the 60 foot would be better.
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Old May 6, 2006 | 12:16 AM
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... so now i have to order a new clutch :'(
It's always nice to have an excuse to put mods into the car
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Old May 6, 2006 | 12:20 AM
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Hows the wheel hop? You have the trap speed to be 13's all it's all in the 60ft. Don't worry you will be there soon enough.
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Old May 6, 2006 | 12:21 AM
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From an idle launch its not bad at all. I still had it slightly but nothing horrible. The last run I had a lot of it, but still pulled a 14.09
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Old May 6, 2006 | 12:22 AM
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i found that my best 60 foots were rolling off the line (at idle) and then feathering into WOT. I tried dumping the clutch at every rpm between 1000 and 3000 and i had slower 60 foots than just rolling off theline as if i was driving to the grocery store.

Haha, yeah I, since i am getting a new clutch... might as well get a flywheel too eh
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Old May 6, 2006 | 12:28 AM
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I will be going to the track tomorrow. I will see if I can better your time since you beat mine. LOL. I do not think I will because I will have too much gas in the tank when I arrive. I just filled up and then got invited to go to the track. I do not think I and going to run it down low enough. Anyway I think you got really good times and yes that the 13's are hard to get to. I will also be vary conservative and only lunch at idle. I will just be trying to get my R/T time down.
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Old May 6, 2006 | 12:35 AM
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Good runs!!!
You'll get 13's with a little more seat time.
You are so lucky to be at 400ft!!!

I must urge you not to powershift.
It is really hard on parts, like synchronizers and clutches. It is worth a small amount of time, and it is much cheaper to buy more parts to go faster once the damage adds up.

If you want to continue with it Cody, you had better get an extremely aggressive clutch to take the abuse. If you are anything like me, you'll keep modding and adding power. I suggest a 4 or 6 puck design, and either carbon, or kevlar composite discs.
This is testament to the fact that fi cars aren't affected by elevation as much as n/a cars.
Still at a big handicap running at elevation though.
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Old May 6, 2006 | 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Jekyl
since i am getting a new clutch... might as well get a flywheel too eh
Yeah, you might as well. Damn another mod you had to buy
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Old May 6, 2006 | 12:44 AM
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yeah im defintately not going cheap with a clutch....... i need to do some research and find a really aggressive strong clutch. I didnt buy this car for trips to the mall. I am hard on it and I am looking to race it like every weekend haha. I knew i was gonna be upgrading my clutch this season, i just wanted to push this one to the max first
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Old May 6, 2006 | 12:57 AM
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Not bad Jeremy, A little bit more practice and mid 13's will be easy!
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Old May 6, 2006 | 01:09 AM
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I takes some practice to get good times from normal street tires. I got a 2.12 60ft and ran 14.6@94. Another time I got 2.20 and ran 14.7@95. The only difference between those two runs was I jacked up air pressure in the rear to about 45psi cold and I didn't take out my seats that time either. Track conditions were about the same.

LACR is at 2700ft above sea level and Chrysler has tuned the cars to run around 11.5 A/F. The thinner air doesn't help and saps power as SRT-4's are capable of trapping between 99-101mph dead stock with the "driver mod" which that SRT-4 owner next to you in the left time slip needs BADLY; 15.3@93mph, yikes.

If you really want good times from your street tires, besides practice, I would invest in motor mounts, lower control arm bushings and lowering springs to help chassis dive at launch.

Of course DR's help a ton as well...
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Old May 6, 2006 | 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by dj4monie
I takes some practice to get good times from normal street tires. I got a 2.12 60ft and ran 14.6@94. Another time I got 2.20 and ran 14.7@95. The only difference between those two runs was I jacked up air pressure in the rear to about 45psi cold and I didn't take out my seats that time either. Track conditions were about the same.

LACR is at 2700ft above sea level and Chrysler has tuned the cars to run around 11.5 A/F. The thinner air doesn't help and saps power as SRT-4's are capable of trapping between 99-101mph dead stock with the "driver mod" which that SRT-4 owner next to you in the left time slip needs BADLY; 15.3@93mph, yikes.

If you really want good times from your street tires, besides practice, I would invest in motor mounts, lower control arm bushings and lowering springs to help chassis dive at launch.

Of course DR's help a ton as well...
Yea I dont know what was up with that SRT-4, I mean I went ghost on him and I couldnreally tell what was going on because it was dark and he had his lights off. I dont think that was a real run. There where TONS of SRT-4's up there, they almost out # everything else. Most where running 13.5-14.0, the fastest I saw there ran a 12.8. My boy pero with his white ACR and many mods was putting down 13.4 with his street tires. Hes pretty highly modded though. I think the slowest there other then the one I raced was like a 14.4.

I want to be able to say "I drive a 13 second car" so I guess I will have to do one of two things

1.) Upgrade from Driver MOD stage 2.5 to 3

or

2.) More Mods

or both
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Old May 6, 2006 | 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Jekyl
yeah im defintately not going cheap with a clutch....... i need to do some research and find a really aggressive strong clutch. I didnt buy this car for trips to the mall. I am hard on it and I am looking to race it like every weekend haha. I knew i was gonna be upgrading my clutch this season, i just wanted to push this one to the max first
the clutchmasters FX300 is listed as $775.US on some vendors sites but I am getting mine for $810.Can shipped, from Ontario. If you want the # just PM me.
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Old May 6, 2006 | 02:51 AM
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Nice runs Xenozx! You definitely have a 13 sec car there. Pretty impressive w/ the Altitude of the track too. W/ the stage two what RPM are you shifing @? Are you still in 3rd by the end of the track? You're cutting some pretty good 60fts on street tires...believe me, w/ more practice you'll get those 2.0 60fts..
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Old May 6, 2006 | 05:44 AM
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Nice runs Xenozx! You definitely have a 13 sec car there. Pretty impressive w/ the Altitude of the track too. W/ the stage two what RPM are you shifing @? Are you still in 3rd by the end of the track? You're cutting some pretty good 60fts on street tires...believe me, w/ more practice you'll get those 2.0 60fts..
ty

I try to shift arround 6900 RPM's. Its a close call. I usually shift into 4th just to be safe, but I dont have to shift into 4th until about 105-108 mph.

Living with your parents is kool, so I am going to save some loot for a Header, CAB's, and a Clutchmasters clutch and flywheel.


Then my car is complete
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Old May 7, 2006 | 02:03 PM
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Get that 60 to a 2.0 or 1.9 and youd be definately 13.5 / 13.6 all day .
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Old May 7, 2006 | 03:28 PM
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nice runs man. you def. have a 13sec car with a little bit better 60ft.
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Old May 7, 2006 | 04:01 PM
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Thanks IM just wondering what I can do now to get that 60 foot lower. I guess I will try the CAB's and see how that works out
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Old May 12, 2006 | 07:49 PM
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good times, i know what its like. after i got my stage 2 i was really hoping to get the 13s under my belt. but at cecil my best time was only a 14.15, i hope i will get a good launch and maybe with my new intake i can squeeze in there... ugh what ever happend to the .7 sec off the 1/4 GM promised with a stock car combined with stage 2...
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Old May 12, 2006 | 09:56 PM
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all it takes is seat time bro. just gotta practice
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