The Results are in!! INTENSE stg3 hit the Track
Originally Posted by FSRbikr98
seriously this thread does have enough fighting, i'm just mad that a lot of members keep saying "wait for the aftermarket" You dont wait for this ****, you go out and find it, or make it, or whatever it takes, thats how you mod a car. And as far as showing me whose gonna feel bad for who, i honestly dont know how to take that. I mean, i may not be making 270 hp now, but within the next month i should be apart of the "300hp stock turbo" club. It's taken some time but i'm getting the parts together slowly but surely.
true darksun, but i'm not here to fight, i'm here to learn. Unfortunately, everytime i sign on, all i see is threads on the injen intake, i've read enough about your intake, i wanna see more. Someone on this site has to want more power.
Originally Posted by FSRbikr98
true darksun, but i'm not here to fight, i'm here to learn. Unfortunately, everytime i sign on, all i see is threads on the injen intake, i've read enough about your intake, i wanna see more. Someone on this site has to want more power.
Originally Posted by FSRbikr98
true darksun, but i'm not here to fight, i'm here to learn. Unfortunately, everytime i sign on, all i see is threads on the injen intake, i've read enough about your intake, i wanna see more. Someone on this site has to want more power.
Originally Posted by FSRbikr98
I feel bad for you cobalt guys, it seems the ability to mod this car just isnt there. I keep hearing everyone say "oh give the aftermarket time and they'll come up with something" Honestly, its been a damn long time, the car has to have been out for a year now, and you still basiclly have no go fast parts. Either someone takes some action and starts writing to some major companies or you will be stuck in the mid 13's.
Dan
Originally Posted by FSRbikr98
someone wanna send me a link? i'd be interested to see what he is doing.
Originally Posted by djt81185
You do realize it took a little over 2 years for the srt to develop any type of aftermarket right. It wasnt really until after the mopar kits came out that other vendors did as well. Give it another year and well be right there with you. Everybody makes parts for GM cars. There is more aftermarket for a cavalier than there is for a first gen neon.
Dan
Dan
maybe as far as aftermarket companies go, but there were plenty of parts that would make the car go faster. All the welfare mods and spring mod. Plus there were companies already producing the basics for the car, motor mounts, springs, struts, sways. AGP was already working on a turbo kit within the first year the car hit the market. So i dont totally agree with your statement, but i understand where you are coming from. But again look at the RSX-S. I followed that car pretty well, and i'll tell u that within the first year they had broken 12's N/A. You guys are boosted, that should give you the advantage. I'm starting to feel this car is another mazdaspeed; great chassis, but poor aftermarket support with a weak gearset and motor thats hard to tune.
Originally Posted by Tiny@revitup
2TONFUN was the license plate of the older impala that was at the track running the same day intense was there.
Rob's been racing for longer than I've been alive haha, so I'm sure he'll be a better driver once he gets more track time in the SS/SC. It's really exciting though because it gives me, a lone and poor youngen something to shoot for. I've seen some incredible driving in my few years of track experience...one day I hope to able to drive like them. I know it's cheesy but it's like a form of art, there are always ways of improving your technique- you just have to practice and know that you capable of accomplishing it.
Seriously,
Here is the MAIN factor holding us back, some of you hit on it as well, the gear ratios SUCK! The rpm drop between gears is horrible made worse by having to short shift the car at the lame 6500rpm limit. PCM tune, (NOT GM's) will be nothing short of amazing the results we will see.
My comment about HP not coming easy was meant towards bolt ons. If you want to get serious, it will take internal mod's, ie; head, valvesprings, pistons, cams, etc.
This engine is built pretty darn good from the factory and it is hard to improve with just some quick bolt-ons
As for Twincharged, he has his car up for sale so don't expect much from that.
This is my belief, if you want to add a turbo, TAKE THE SC OFF and do it right! Do you see a twincharged set-up in the ECOTEC BIBLE!? NO!
You'll be way ahead in both money, time, and headaches! Plus make more power!
Last edited by FAST06SS; Mar 1, 2006 at 03:45 PM.
How far away are we from being able to reflash our pcm's?
Also twincharged is MAYBE putting it up for sale. He wants to take his Ram off of commission sale so he can trailer his drag srt-4 to the track and attempt LOW 9's. He said he isnt sure yet if hes gonna sell it or not last I heard. But either way the twincharged tuning will be completed before it goes up for sale.
Also twincharged is MAYBE putting it up for sale. He wants to take his Ram off of commission sale so he can trailer his drag srt-4 to the track and attempt LOW 9's. He said he isnt sure yet if hes gonna sell it or not last I heard. But either way the twincharged tuning will be completed before it goes up for sale.
Originally Posted by FAST06SS
As for Twincharged, he has his car up for sale so don't expect much from that. Tjis is my belief, if you want to add a turbo, TAKE THE SC OFF and do it right! You'll be way ahead in both money, time, and headaches! Plus make more power!
The car is going up for sale because he has a racecar that he wants to tout around the east coast, and you can't pull a 28ft enclosed trailer with a redline, no matter what horsepower its pushing.
Stop telling people to do things right. What is wrong with twincharging? You get the best of both worlds with instant spool and big hp up top. And as far as the cost, I don't think there is a huge cost difference between the twincharged setup and a full turbo kit, but there would be if you have to pull the supercharger off, rerout all the piping and fabricate an intake manifold.
Stick to what you know, and if you are a master twincharger (had to refrain from the master-debater comment) then please fill us in on some of the technical aspects of why it is WRONG.
I'm glad you guys are putting on the show though, because it is only fueling us to get cracking on getting to the track. Hope to have stage 2 on the strip next week. See you there.
Originally Posted by Tiny@revitup
I'm glad you guys are putting on the show though, because it is only fueling us to get cracking on getting to the track. Hope to have stage 2 on the strip next week. See you there.
Originally Posted by FAST06SS
TAKE THE SC OFF and do it right! You'll be way ahead in both money, time, and headaches! Plus make more power!
Originally Posted by Tiny@revitup
Stop taking shots at every turn, it is starting to get a little old, even for me. I don't even have the energy to fight with you anymore.
It wasn't a shot, just responding to a previous post about someone getting their hopes up. If he is selling it then R&D is tough to do
The car is going up for sale because he has a racecar that he wants to tout around the east coast, and you can't pull a 28ft enclosed trailer with a redline, no matter what horsepower its pushing.
Cool!
Stop telling people to do things right. What is wrong with twincharging? You get the best of both worlds with instant spool and big hp up top. And as far as the cost, I don't think there is a huge cost difference between the twincharged setup and a full turbo kit, but there would be if you have to pull the supercharger off, rerout all the piping and fabricate an intake manifold.
We are having issues with the stock set-up as it is! Yet you are adding even more complexity If it was so good then why don't we see it everywhere? This is just my opinion that happens to be shared with many others. If you get it to work properly, affordably, and reliably, GREAT!!!!
Stick to what you know, and if you are a master twincharger (had to refrain from the master-debater comment) then please fill us in on some of the technical aspects of why it is WRONG.
Why should i fill you in on technical data when you wouldn't even give me the duty cycle, PW, or a scan of your set-up!
I'm glad you guys are putting on the show though, because it is only fueling us to get cracking on getting to the track. Hope to have stage 2 on the strip next week. See you there.
It wasn't a shot, just responding to a previous post about someone getting their hopes up. If he is selling it then R&D is tough to do
The car is going up for sale because he has a racecar that he wants to tout around the east coast, and you can't pull a 28ft enclosed trailer with a redline, no matter what horsepower its pushing.
Cool!
Stop telling people to do things right. What is wrong with twincharging? You get the best of both worlds with instant spool and big hp up top. And as far as the cost, I don't think there is a huge cost difference between the twincharged setup and a full turbo kit, but there would be if you have to pull the supercharger off, rerout all the piping and fabricate an intake manifold.
We are having issues with the stock set-up as it is! Yet you are adding even more complexity If it was so good then why don't we see it everywhere? This is just my opinion that happens to be shared with many others. If you get it to work properly, affordably, and reliably, GREAT!!!!
Stick to what you know, and if you are a master twincharger (had to refrain from the master-debater comment) then please fill us in on some of the technical aspects of why it is WRONG.
Why should i fill you in on technical data when you wouldn't even give me the duty cycle, PW, or a scan of your set-up!
I'm glad you guys are putting on the show though, because it is only fueling us to get cracking on getting to the track. Hope to have stage 2 on the strip next week. See you there.
Originally Posted by AlphaJaguar5
Umm no. We already tried it and it made less power due to the turbo had to spool. The computer still limits you to guess what... 12psi.
Originally Posted by FAST06SS
Cool, competeition is good, as for a show, from what i hear from the SRT guys, you do a pretty good job yourself over ther as well
Originally Posted by Tiny@revitup
Blah, SRTs are easy, it's the DBW that gets complex with these newer cars. As a matter of fact I am just bolting my SRT back together this week and i'm going to put it up on the dyno. We did a GT40 on the stock block and we are pushing 30psi through a fully built 3 speed auto with locking convertor. With the old setup we broke 11.6 and i'm hoping to get even better with this new stuff. We'll see.
I had an 87 T-Type ,bone stock longblock back in 2001 that i pushed to 30psi with a little PT51 turbo. Kept pushing the dipstick out of block!
Do I see the tension breaking.LOL
Keep up the good work guys. Both companies are doing a great job keep the parts coming. Tiny It was nice to meet u saturday night. I had the silver balt. I should be down soon to dyno.
Joe
Joe
Originally Posted by FAST06SS
If you tried it on an 04, no wonder it didn't work. Those pcm's are the worst of the bunch unfortunately.
Originally Posted by JAESS
Do I see the tension breaking.LOL
Keep up the good work guys. Both companies are doing a great job keep the parts coming. Tiny It was nice to meet u saturday night. I had the silver balt. I should be down soon to dyno.
Joe
Joe
I'll let you know, but once we get stage 2 on we're all going to take a ride to Atco, so maybe we can all hit the track.


